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Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by xp84 »

jug wrote: post #8
visarga wrote: post #6

I tried Bard and it feels worse than GPT-4, it doesn't follow the prompt very well. Uploading an invoice it failed to extract data, instead it responded with hallucinations.

Yes, I think it should be compared to GPT 3.5. Google doesn't really have a public contender to GPT 4 yet but this is what the Gemini project is intended to be, by the newly formed/reformed Google DeepMind team.

It may be 3.5-like, however when I tried it, it seems like it has a lot more handcuffs applied for “safety,” and I don’t mean safety from Skynet and Terminators. I mean things like it refuses to speculate about what medical condition might cause some given symptoms. “Sorry, I’m just a language model.” GPT had no problem giving it an educated guess.

I personally find this type of “safety“ to be patronizing and insulting, but I’m sure there are people who would prefer government regulation banning the use of language models for various and sundry “inappropriate” questions in order to protect humans who have no common sense. Anyway, in this condition, Bard’s a no for me.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by hbn »

agildehaus wrote: post #9
oadster wrote: post #2

My ChatGPT and Bard use has pretty much flatlined. Has anyone else has a similar experience?

I ask it my dumb questions first before asking a human who will hold it against me.

One use for Chat GPT I've found that's super handy - and something search engines have been really bad at - is finding me a word that I can't think of. Give it a description of the word's meaning, and maybe the context for how it would be used and it's given me pretty great results. It was such a relief figuring this out cause I'm terrible at recalling words sometimes, so I've wanted something like this for YEARS.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by dougmwne »

oadster wrote: post #2

My ChatGPT and Bard use has pretty much flatlined. Has anyone else has a similar experience?

Nope. ChatGPT/Bing have taken over maybe 50% of my internet searches. I find them incredibly helpful for all kinds of things.

My best recent use of Bing is while on vacation to Italy, I had it search the internet in Italian for more locally focused information, then auto translate and summarize the results into English. I also used it to explain italian culture and history to me right in the moment.

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Post by CharlieDigital »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #25

I asked bard the other day about the prognosis for a 80 year old with a liver infection. It responded super confidently about a study which suggested the five year survival rate was about 50%. I asked it where I could find the study and sure enough it gave me a link to a study. It almost had me until I clicked on the link and realised the study had nothing to do with a liver infection!

We found similar issues with asking Bard for images.

Bard generated Wikimedia links which look legit, but it's simply following the pattern of those URLs. When we loaded the links, they were all broken.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by canadiantim »

llm_nerd wrote: post #23
xemoka wrote: post #4

Still not in Canada, I wonder why? Surprising given where else they've expanded.

Google is trying to "punish" Canada for bill C-18 [1]. It is absolutely gross, bully-like corporate behaviour and ultimately should earn Google much more scrutiny. For those who don't know, bill C-18 required Google and others to pay Canadian news orgs if they scrape and present their content. This is exactly the battle Australia had with Google (Australia won, btw), but now that Canada has moved forward Google has d…

As a Canadian I am glad that Google is taking this stand. If Canada succeeds in its current implementation of Bill C-18 it will absolutely destroy the revenue for media organizations in Canada rapidly accelerating the decline in journalism here. Not to mention the morales of taxing the free flow of information on the internet.

So as a Canadian, THANK YOU GOOGLE!

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Post by crazygringo »

llm_nerd wrote: post #23
xemoka wrote: post #4

Still not in Canada, I wonder why? Surprising given where else they've expanded.

Google is trying to "punish" Canada for bill C-18 [1]. It is absolutely gross, bully-like corporate behaviour and ultimately should earn Google much more scrutiny. For those who don't know, bill C-18 required Google and others to pay Canadian news orgs if they scrape and present their content. This is exactly the battle Australia had with Google (Australia won, btw), but now that Canada has moved forward Google has d…

Do you have any evidence of this?

Or are these just assumptions?

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

londons_explore wrote: post #16
agildehaus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ask it my dumb questions first before asking a human who will hold it against me.

Early search engines would publically show what people were searching for. It was amazing how prevalent silly/embarrassing questions were. Things like "can kissing cause baby?"

https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg
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