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No, this is fake, a light dusting of nothing on top of a meme post that was circulating in grifting communities as early as Q4 2022. It gains a little bit in every retelling, sort of impressive to see its almost blog scale.

No, a meme post from 2022 did not in fact reference papers posted in 2023. You must be thinking of some other post, or you're just making stuff up.

Like I said, it gains a little bit in every retelling. Why are you aggressively defending unsourced tripe?

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#32

This is unsubstantiated. The only folks who know exactly how GPT-4 works are employed at OpenAI. The rest of us can only guess.

Even if I just go with Sam Altman's public comment, I would have came to similar conclusion: GPT-4 is big and it is hard to make it is faster.

The secret sauce and moat lies in data though. I have heard rumour that they have paid competitive coders to write and annotate code with information like complexity for them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to ask GPT what MoE means: "MoE" in the context of artificial intelligence typically stands for "Mixture of Experts". This is a machine learning technique that is based on the idea of dividing a problem into sub-problems, solving each sub-problem with a specialized "expert" (or model), and then combining their outputs.

Yep they (would) basically have 8-16 "experts" that are each about the size of GPT-3. Since they each see different batches of the dataset, they learn to model those distributions independently rather than the distribution of the whole dataset. Some of the attention is shared between them however. Then another "routing model" decides which model is most suitable for the given user prompt. Given they use relatively fe…

Source?

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"Open" AI, a charity to benefit us all by pushing and publishing the frontier of scientific knowledge. Nevermind, fuckers, actually it's just to take your jobs and make a few VCs richer. We'll keep the science a secret and try to pressure the government into making it illegal for you to compete with us. https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp https://github.com/openlm-research/open_llama https://huggingface.co/TheBlok…

Why the vitriol towards OpenAI?

If Elon hadn't pulled the rug out from under them after they refused his forceful takeover*, they wouldn't have had to go to Microsoft and they'd still be open.

* a takeover which he predicated on the claim that OpenAI was "doomed to fail"

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If it was trained on CS textbooks, they weren't very good ones. I asked it (GPT4) to write a quantum computer algorithm to square a number. It very confidently told me that to simplify the problem it would use two bits. Okay, fine. But then the algorithm it (again confidently) implemented did a left shift (which it reminded me was multiplying by 2, so it definitely intended this!) and then add the number to itself. I…

Damn so you tried once to use it for a thing and it failed? That's crazy, truly a mystery then why so many devs continue to use it daily.

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For all the 'I know every number' certainty of this post, there's some weird stuff: >(Today, the pre-training could be done with ~8,192 H100 in ~55 days for $21.5 million at $2 per H100 hour.) Why flex both system size and training time to arbitrary numbers? >For example, MoE is incredibly difficult to deal with on inference because not every part of the model is utilized on every token generation. This means parts m…

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"Open" AI, a charity to benefit us all by pushing and publishing the frontier of scientific knowledge. Nevermind, fuckers, actually it's just to take your jobs and make a few VCs richer. We'll keep the science a secret and try to pressure the government into making it illegal for you to compete with us. https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp https://github.com/openlm-research/open_llama https://huggingface.co/TheBlok…

Why the vitriol towards OpenAI? If Elon hadn't pulled the rug out from under them after they refused his forceful takeover*, they wouldn't have had to go to Microsoft and they'd still be open. * a takeover which he predicated on the claim that OpenAI was "doomed to fail"

It's several reasons, first it's the lies and the abuse of a charity, that wouldn't be an issue if they had began as a private company instead of robbing a charity.

But secondly, even if they were a private company, it's dishonest and reprehensible to claim to congress that you want to "protect the public" when you really only give a shit about protecting your moat, I'm not happy about that either.

I'm also tired of tech oligarchs general tomfuckery in all our daily lives, as I suspect many more people here are. OpenAI is just particularly egregious about it.

I also think it's my civic duty to let other developers know that OpenAI does not have, by any stretch of the imagination, a stranglehold on this technology or any secret sauce. That's why they're lying and sweating in front of congress.

Re: GPT-4 details leaked?

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If it was trained on CS textbooks, they weren't very good ones. I asked it (GPT4) to write a quantum computer algorithm to square a number. It very confidently told me that to simplify the problem it would use two bits. Okay, fine. But then the algorithm it (again confidently) implemented did a left shift (which it reminded me was multiplying by 2, so it definitely intended this!) and then add the number to itself. I…

It sounds like you don't know how to use it effectively is all I can see from your post.

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#40

"Open" AI, a charity to benefit us all by pushing and publishing the frontier of scientific knowledge. Nevermind, fuckers, actually it's just to take your jobs and make a few VCs richer. We'll keep the science a secret and try to pressure the government into making it illegal for you to compete with us. https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp https://github.com/openlm-research/open_llama https://huggingface.co/TheBlok…

Why the vitriol towards OpenAI? If Elon hadn't pulled the rug out from under them after they refused his forceful takeover*, they wouldn't have had to go to Microsoft and they'd still be open. * a takeover which he predicated on the claim that OpenAI was "doomed to fail"

This a really interesting spin on reality
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