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Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

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Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#31

> Only ship something you are proud of. meh. lots of companies are wildly successful with crappy products built by 9-5 teams. or startups with founders that are embarrassed by v0.1 or even v1.0.

Depends on scale and industry, right?

A post-scale consumer company should only ship something they are highly proud of.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#32
post #11

Why is AirBnb still a thing ? Do people like doing chores while on a vacation ?

I just stayed at two AirBnBs. I'm not sure what "doing chores" means. Sure I had to tidy up a bit when I left, but I would do that regardless because I'm a decent human being. Even when I stay at a hotel I wipe down the sink and strip the bed before I leave. In the meantime I had a condo next to the beach with a kitchen and beach toys in both locations for less than the hotel next door cost (which would not have a ki…

> Even when I stay at a hotel I wipe down the sink and strip the bed before I leave.

That's not normal.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

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post #4

They did kill a whole bunch of things... like the ability to rent at a reasonable rate and the ability to get a mortgage that doesn't lean heavily on the 'mort' part.

Everyone loves a boogieman. The reason rents are high are not because of short term rentals. They are high because of inflation and globalization.

And a lack of supply that is pushed by owners. (Not just AirBnb owners, all owners)

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

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post #4

They did kill a whole bunch of things... like the ability to rent at a reasonable rate and the ability to get a mortgage that doesn't lean heavily on the 'mort' part.

Everyone loves a boogieman. The reason rents are high are not because of short term rentals. They are high because of inflation and globalization.

Ironically, you cite some other boogeymen. They are high mostly because not enough housing is being built to meet demand.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

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post #4

They did kill a whole bunch of things... like the ability to rent at a reasonable rate and the ability to get a mortgage that doesn't lean heavily on the 'mort' part.

Everyone loves a boogieman. The reason rents are high are not because of short term rentals. They are high because of inflation and globalization.

Some places are more affected by AirBnB than others. Seattle? Nope. Paris Bastille district? A few years ago definitely.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#36
post #12
post #4

They did kill a whole bunch of things... like the ability to rent at a reasonable rate and the ability to get a mortgage that doesn't lean heavily on the 'mort' part.

Yeah I don't really think a meaningfully larger amount people are traveling because Airbnb is an app that exist, so demand from tourism should stay flat, no?

Apartments in residential buildings are well.. apartments, not hotels. If you're a tourist, go to a hotel, I don't want a new set of loud obnoxius neighbors partying every few days next door to my apartment (and a shared wall in between). The apartment that should be rented out at cheaper monthly rate is now getitng rented out to lud tourists per daily rates, and that is a bad thing for locals living in that city. Some areas are already destroyed by airbnbs, so banning airbnbs (and all the other short-term rentals of residential apartments) should be banned.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#37
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I find social interactions with hotel employees far more exhausting than straightening up a bit.

I love hotels. I am not sure why Airbnb ever took off, other than price for large groups. Hotels you show up, you know you have a room because you booked with Hilton or whatever. They clean up the room after you leave for the day. They bring you stuff, carry luggage it’s great.

So far, I've found that using superhosts is a reliable way to get good results from AirBnB. I think a lot of the horror stories come from the original business model of crashing in Joe Sixpack's basement.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone loves a boogieman. The reason rents are high are not because of short term rentals. They are high because of inflation and globalization.

Ironically, you cite some other boogeymen. They are high mostly because not enough housing is being built to meet demand.

And the one that is being built is then rented out daily on sites like AirBnB instead of monthly/yearly to locals.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

#39
post #2

As a superhost who use the Airbnb mobile app and website everyday, the experience is quite awful. Basic functions are not there, while the app already seems to be bloated. I'm wondering if any of the product manager there ever used their product.

Same here.

The hosting app is terribl. To the point that there's an ecosystem of apps for managing properties, and most of the functions are just basic features that either exist or should on the Airbnb app.

The app is so bad, that I can't trust it with showing me who arrives today in the summary page, instead I go to the calendar.

And yes, I feel like they should make their PMs or designers use the hosting side of the app.

Re: Did Airbnb kill the PM role?

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post #4

They did kill a whole bunch of things... like the ability to rent at a reasonable rate and the ability to get a mortgage that doesn't lean heavily on the 'mort' part.

not looking at actual hard cold data but it's easy for someone to come to this annedonatal conclusion. In Asheville NC my entire neighborhood is being bought up by a corporation that is doing airbnb/VRBO. Also very hard to get ahold of anyone in case of a noise complaint.
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