Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

gazettengr.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 465 posts

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#31

Post by alistairSH »

rythmshifter wrote: post #17
msoad wrote: post #12

[flagged]

Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

The police (in the US) have a long history of protecting their own, and punishing anybody who does speak up, even in the face of what would otherwise be compelling evidence of illegal behavior.

ACAB might be a bit hyperbolic, but the sentiment (that policing in the US is fundamentally broken) isn’t off base.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#33

Post by JumpCrisscross »

msoad wrote: post #12

[flagged]

> #ACAB

At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#34

Post by hinata08 »

I regret getting a pixel, and not a fairphone with a removable battery

With the current level of oversight on the police (police of police is a meme by now), and the level of cybersecurity at the government, everyone's phones will be activated within a few months.

At least some government agent will have fun watching what ppl visit on the internet during their spare time, and can enable the camera to watch what they're doing when they review the content.

The fight against crime is ramping up !

I don't get why they don't hire back more detectives and accountants to really investigate actual evidence, instead of just listening to potential criminals for hours. They have been reducing the force for 15 years (especially the forces that investigated financial and workplace crimes)

That would be more effective.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#35

Post by lagolinguini »

rythmshifter wrote: post #17
msoad wrote: post #12

[flagged]

Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

No it’s not the same. One of them is an institution conceived through organisation of people, laws, traditions and customs, the existence and membership of which is a choice. The other categories are associations made by accident of birth. I don’t have a horse in the race but it is important to understand that those situations are not the same. When people say stuff like ACAB they are free to criticise the existence of the police as an institution as they please.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#37

Post by nimbius »

reminder that fdroid offers apps that will monopolize the microphone so it cannot be used by other programs (pilfershush for example.)

electrical tape on your camera should take care of the rest, and developer mode lets you feed the system bogus GPS data at will.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#39

Post by andy_ppp »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #33
msoad wrote: post #12

[flagged]

> #ACAB At least for me, this comment loses its thrust with this hashtag. It takes a potent observation and adds unnecessary partisanship. It's also connected with the mother of all blowback slogans: defund the police.

My experience with the police has been universally terrible. They think they are above the law and trusting them to do the right thing or “tell the truth and you’ll be fine” is extremely bad advice. Get a lawyer and be very careful around these people is my more nuanced take on them.

Edit: I commented before you made your answer more nuanced so I’ve changed mine too.

Re: France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phone camera, microphone

#40

Post by JasonFruit »

rythmshifter wrote: post #17
msoad wrote: post #12

[flagged]

Saying all cops are anything is exactly the same thing as saying all blacks are thieves, all Jews are greedy, or any of the other blanket statements that can never apply to any large group of people. It’s disgusting.

Then let's handle it like we do race: the average cop is a bastard. This is not necessarily true of all individuals, but it's statistically predictive.
Post reply on HN