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To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by 0xfai »

qingcharles wrote: post #24
0xfai wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/Rezmason/matrix/ Then you'll love this project. The Holographic demo supports the Looking Glass display and I'm pretty sure natively supports the Kinect Azure but also works with a webcam.

That is great. Now I need to buy a 65" Looking Glass display just to play this all day.

I have been trying to hook a client on a useful demo to get someone who is not me to spring for that big display. Lol. The portrait is like $300 though and it looks good on that.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by COGlory »

zerocrates wrote: post #16
science4sail wrote: post #2

From the timestamps, I guess that this blurb[0] dates from the tail end of the DRM wars[1]. It's fascinating how the enshittification of various online services have led to a resurgence of that era's anti-establishment attitudes. [0] possibly copy-pasted from an earlier 4chan post? The language style certainly seems to match. [1] https://xkcd.com/86/ and https://xkcd.com/488/ and https://xkcd.com/546/

I'm almost certain it's a 4chan "greentext" originally, yes. It's from the time around the introduction of the Xbox One, which, as one of many policies for the console that were unpopular and ultimately rolled back before release, was going to require the Kinect camera to be plugged in for the console to function. By this time there was already a well-known Black Mirror episode out involving computer vision tracking…

>By this time there was already a well-known Black Mirror episode out involving computer vision tracking to ensure people really watched ads, so these ideas were floating around in the culture. As well as Sony's "say McDonald's to end the ad" patent surfacing around that time.

In addition, Microsoft actually filed a patent for a system that would use the Kinect to track how many people were in the room when watching rented movies, and upcharge you if you exceeded a certain number of people.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/26574/microsoft_patent_could_...

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by Auguste »

walrus01 wrote: post #22
userbinator wrote: post #21

I suppose the significance is that this is the 10-year anniversary (to the month) of this dystopian meme. While we fortunately haven't gotten to that point of corporate enslavement, it does feel like society has shifted increasingly in that direction since 2013.

I literally just saw a BMW advertisement yesterday that says it comes with 8 years of adaptive cruise control/driver assist, which then disables itself after the timer runs out (presumably unless you pay to license it again).

For a while now, the KTM motorcycle company has been selling bikes with a Demo Mode.

For the first 1,500 km, you get access to all of the electronic features of your new bike; then they get disabled and you have to pay to re-enable them.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ktm-demo-mode

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by userbinator »

TheDong wrote: post #30
LocalH wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Abusive business practices are not "good" no matter whether they harm the people you dislike or not.

The argument is about harm to the general populace, not about harm to a specific group they dislike. Are indoor smoking bans good? The justification is that second-hand smoke has significant negative impacts on the general populace. Are tabacco taxes good? They encourage the same thing that smoking bans do, a reduction in smoking leading to better health for the population. The parent commenter is just saying the sam…

Life causes all death.

People should be free to drink, smoke, drive, and whatever else is "harmful" if they want. Part of freedom is tolerance for others doing things you don't like. Otherwise we're headed for authoritarian dystopia.

...which is ironic given the context here.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by doctorpangloss »

mehlmao wrote: post #23
dooglius wrote: post #4

To provide some historical context for this meme, the Xbox One had recently been unveiled and at the time was going to have a mandatory Kinect. It was rumored that the camera would be un-disableable and on at all times.

The "User attempting to steal online gameplay" bit came from Cliff Blezinski et al saying that splitscreen multiplayer and co-op was a mistake, because half the people who played didn't pay for the game. In the past ten years we have seen local multiplayer evaporate. EDIT: The Kinnect had a microphone in it too

> In the past ten years we have seen local multiplayer evaporate.

Split screen multiplayer evaporated for many reasons. Besides business it's also technology.

I'm not sure you'll find a single indie split screen multiplayer game that uses a modern, queued graphics pipeline (Unity HDRP or Unreal 4+). Even among big commercial games, Fortnite notably supports 2 player split screen, but Rocket League, Borderlands and Gears of War are all Unreal 3 I think.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by cactusfrog »

walrus01 wrote: post #22
userbinator wrote: post #21

I suppose the significance is that this is the 10-year anniversary (to the month) of this dystopian meme. While we fortunately haven't gotten to that point of corporate enslavement, it does feel like society has shifted increasingly in that direction since 2013.

I literally just saw a BMW advertisement yesterday that says it comes with 8 years of adaptive cruise control/driver assist, which then disables itself after the timer runs out (presumably unless you pay to license it again).

The good news is that no BMW is going to run for 8 years

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by gbear605 »

megablast wrote: post #25
walrus01 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just saw a BMW advertisement yesterday that says it comes with 8 years of adaptive cruise control/driver assist, which then disables itself after the timer runs out (presumably unless you pay to license it again).

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The end result is the same number of cars, that all have built in features that no one pays for and uses, causing more resource usage and waste but providing no one any value. It just hurts the environment but doesn’t convince anyone to switch away.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by petesergeant »

walrus01 wrote: post #22
userbinator wrote: post #21

I suppose the significance is that this is the 10-year anniversary (to the month) of this dystopian meme. While we fortunately haven't gotten to that point of corporate enslavement, it does feel like society has shifted increasingly in that direction since 2013.

I literally just saw a BMW advertisement yesterday that says it comes with 8 years of adaptive cruise control/driver assist, which then disables itself after the timer runs out (presumably unless you pay to license it again).

I think I am in a minority group of 1 for thinking that features that are payable extras are a good thing, actually.

I guess people who don't like it see it as losing features, and talk about _owning_ their vehicle, where I see it as the ability to fine-tune the cost of a vehicle depending on what features you do or do not want to license. With any luck, competition should end up giving a market price to each of these features, and you can just pay market price for what you want/need. In addition, the car should be easier to re-sell, as any options you cheaped out on, a secondary buyer can pay for if they want them.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by brewdad »

userbinator wrote: post #34
TheDong wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument is about harm to the general populace, not about harm to a specific group they dislike. Are indoor smoking bans good? The justification is that second-hand smoke has significant negative impacts on the general populace. Are tabacco taxes good? They encourage the same thing that smoking bans do, a reduction in smoking leading to better health for the population. The parent commenter is just saying the sam…

Life causes all death. People should be free to drink, smoke, drive, and whatever else is "harmful" if they want. Part of freedom is tolerance for others doing things you don't like. Otherwise we're headed for authoritarian dystopia. ...which is ironic given the context here.

Freedom does not allow you to harm others with impunity.

Re: To unlock drink verification can (2013)

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Post by vorpalhex »

petesergeant wrote: post #38
walrus01 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally just saw a BMW advertisement yesterday that says it comes with 8 years of adaptive cruise control/driver assist, which then disables itself after the timer runs out (presumably unless you pay to license it again).

I think I am in a minority group of 1 for thinking that features that are payable extras are a good thing, actually. I guess people who don't like it see it as losing features, and talk about _owning_ their vehicle, where I see it as the ability to fine-tune the cost of a vehicle depending on what features you do or do not want to license. With any luck, competition should end up giving a market price to each of thes…

Just to be clear, these features such as heated seats are already in your vehicle.

You are just being charged monthly.. for hardware you already bought.

"Car feature piracy" will be an interesting new world I suppose...

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