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I interviewed with them a bit over a decade ago for an engineering position after I got my master’s degree. The interviewer straight up asked me if I was okay working something like 60 hour weeks. I said nope right then.
I interviewed with them a bit over a decade ago for an engineering position after I got my master’s degree. The interviewer straight up asked me if I was okay working something like 60 hour weeks. I said nope right then.
They're currently raising at a $150B valuation so you would have been retired and on a Yacht by now (and yes they do tender offers, so your equity wouldn't be illiquid).
One of my best friends worked there for several years. Ignore the condescending and unrooted drivel in most of the comments. He loved it. But make no bones about it, you work your butt off like there isn't a tomorrow because the ethos is that there may not be if you don't. If you're down for hard grueling work but doing so with a bunch of brilliant people and care deeply about the mission it can be an incredible oppo…
Not quite.
https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376?...
There are definitely some smart people, and things move fast, but there are 2 sides to the company I had friends that worked for Space X and Tesla, and I have worked for a UAV companies, and its the same story over and over again. My CEO straight up told us "your reward for working hard is that you get to continue working".
Within the company, there exists a clique of upper level managers/engineers and some lower level engineers, where the talent lies. If you are part of this clique, you love it, as you get a good amount of input on how your work goes, what areas you wan to take on, and it feels like you are doing cool shit with friends where you can easily work 60 hour weeks because you are having fun. And if you do quit, you always have connections and stay in touch and are able to find work .
If you are not part of this clique, you work on stuff you are told, have to put in extra hours to get shit to work because of barriers in the way, you have no say in any direction, and you eventually get burnt out.
The thing is, to join that clique, you have to be hired based on reworking through someone in the clique who can vouch for you, or spend a shitload of time in a company suffering through the burn out to get into an established position when other clique members quit (and hope that they don't hire someone external to fill the role rather than giving it to you).
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They're currently raising at a $150B valuation so you would have been retired and on a Yacht by now (and yes they do tender offers, so your equity wouldn't be illiquid).
Pfft. My health is more important than money.
I mean you can do whatever you want - but for most of history people have been working far more than that.
60hrs a week is not bad, especially if the work is interesting and you get to work with talented people. It's not like you would have had to work there for the rest of your life.
Just a couple years there would have meant never needing to work ever again. Sounds healthy to me!
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Pfft. My health is more important than money.
60 hrs a week and you're already posturing about health? I mean you can do whatever you want - but for most of history people have been working far more than that. 60hrs a week is not bad, especially if the work is interesting and you get to work with talented people. It's not like you would have had to work there for the rest of your life. Just a couple years there would have meant never needing to work ever again.…
Are you sure? can you support the "most" part?
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Pfft. My health is more important than money.
60 hrs a week and you're already posturing about health? I mean you can do whatever you want - but for most of history people have been working far more than that. 60hrs a week is not bad, especially if the work is interesting and you get to work with talented people. It's not like you would have had to work there for the rest of your life. Just a couple years there would have meant never needing to work ever again.…
2. I don’t do good work when I’m tired.
3. I have some health issues that make managing 40 hours difficult sometimes, so I’m not “posturing.”
Also, I’m pretty sure stock options didn’t vest until like four years or something. IIRC, Musk’s companies were well known for chewing up young engineers and spitting them out. Their modus operandi seemed to be taking advantage of young idealistic graduates who would work themselves to death for some “cause” (and not enough compensation).
recruiter called and offered crazy low base salary i refused to do coding interviews i have 20+ years of experience i offered to share my code or work on a little project offered contracting she said but we send people into space here a job is a job i can’t pay my lanlord with space dust
Senior sw make a base salary of 165k and principal at 216k. Do you. Consider these low? https://www.levels.fyi/companies/spacex/salaries/software-en...
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60 hrs a week and you're already posturing about health? I mean you can do whatever you want - but for most of history people have been working far more than that. 60hrs a week is not bad, especially if the work is interesting and you get to work with talented people. It's not like you would have had to work there for the rest of your life. Just a couple years there would have meant never needing to work ever again.…
1. If they say 60 up front, it’s likely much more than that. 2. I don’t do good work when I’m tired. 3. I have some health issues that make managing 40 hours difficult sometimes, so I’m not “posturing.” Also, I’m pretty sure stock options didn’t vest until like four years or something. IIRC, Musk’s companies were well known for chewing up young engineers and spitting them out. Their modus operandi seemed to be taking…
Just wanted to push back a little against your initial snark :)
https://www.lioness.co/post/at-spacex-we-re-told-we-can-chan...
If you are a female don't bother to work there,otherwise they will sexually harass you.
If you are old,they will take away the work given to you because you will die.