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Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

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Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

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Why make it out of aluminium? Does it have better heat properties or lighter weight than say some high quality plastics or steel, or any other metal?

Aluminum is easily machinable, lightweight, has great heat transfer, can be annodized so that it has a nice surface finish, and is not that expensive.

Titanium would be a good choice as well, but it is far more expensive.

Steel isn't a good choice for a variety of reasons, but #1 in my mind is surface finish. Typically you have to paint or plate steel.

A high end plastic or composite can be made nice, but people are moving away from it.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

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post #8

So I clicked through this article, expecting something that totally misses the point (like their Adamo a few years ago). It doesn't match my immediate expectations. Which is good! The machine looks solid. I don't know if I like it more than my Air, but it looks promising. I keep clicking through. In a machine like this, two things really matter: keyboard and display. As allwein says in another comment thread, they do…

Most manufacturers seem to do that these days, hiding display resolution somewhere obscure, while it represents one of the most important details that I need to know. Personally, I'd like an Ultrabook with the 13" 1080p screen from the Sony Z series. (But not made by Sony, since I need something with decent quality, a decent warranty, and a decent company.)

hiding display resolution somewhere obscure, while it represents one of the most important details that I need to know.

This isn't a coincidence. Sales can profit from ignorance, whether natural or engineered.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#33
post #3

Why make it out of aluminium? Does it have better heat properties or lighter weight than say some high quality plastics or steel, or any other metal?

Aluminum is easily machinable, lightweight, has great heat transfer, can be annodized so that it has a nice surface finish, and is not that expensive. Titanium would be a good choice as well, but it is far more expensive. Steel isn't a good choice for a variety of reasons, but #1 in my mind is surface finish. Typically you have to paint or plate steel. A high end plastic or composite can be made nice, but people are…

So nothing would have stopped them from using a high end plastic or a nice composite? Something that would tell their product apart from a MacBook Air? It is a pity they did not try.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#34
post #27

no matter how pretty they make their laptops, they still run crappy software, IMO. i would buy this, wipe it out and load ubuntu, vs using windows. i find the ubuntu experience on dell laptops to be pretty good. i'm still rocking a e1405 with ubuntu 10.4

Always a good option, although you have to be wary with respect to wireless/wifi drivers. The ubuntu releases tend to trail new hardware for wireless networking by several months for new windows laptops.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#35
post #8

So I clicked through this article, expecting something that totally misses the point (like their Adamo a few years ago). It doesn't match my immediate expectations. Which is good! The machine looks solid. I don't know if I like it more than my Air, but it looks promising. I keep clicking through. In a machine like this, two things really matter: keyboard and display. As allwein says in another comment thread, they do…

Seems like putting in a crappy display is what allowed them to hit the $999 price point.

Screen aside, it is reasonably close to the MacBook Air (real world keyboard/trackpad usability and battery life notwithstanding) that it could get some people to get one over the MBA, except that Dell completely blows it with their presentation.

The site is completely Flash and tries to do one of those fancy scrolling sites, except the scrolling doesn't feel right and the clicking-and-dragging the scroll bar doesn't work. I ended up hitting "Shop XPS Laptops" which took me to the entire XPS range, where I found the ultrabook, clicked on it and was led back to the same Flash site. I hit "Buy XPS 13" and entered the checkout process by accident before going back, scrolling down, hitting Tech Specs and getting most of the information I want (the actual display resolution; it says it's 720p, but is that 1280x720 or 1200x720?).

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#36
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was one of the innovators in _affordable_ thin and light, though. While there were very light and thin laptops prior to the Air, they were usually either netbooks, or terribly expensive. Of course, so was the first-gen Air; the second one was really the interesting one.

nope, there were plenty of options like the Dell X1 (2.5lbs, 2005) and Sony VAIO Z (3.3lbs, 2000). these were mainstream and affordable and functional. the first air came in 2008.

The X1 was light, but it was not thin. Perhaps thinner than other notebooks that Dell was making at the time. But compared to a MacBook Air, any computer that has room to stack two USB ports on top of each other is a friggin' elephant.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#37
post #8

So I clicked through this article, expecting something that totally misses the point (like their Adamo a few years ago). It doesn't match my immediate expectations. Which is good! The machine looks solid. I don't know if I like it more than my Air, but it looks promising. I keep clicking through. In a machine like this, two things really matter: keyboard and display. As allwein says in another comment thread, they do…

Seems like putting in a crappy display is what allowed them to hit the $999 price point. Screen aside, it is reasonably close to the MacBook Air (real world keyboard/trackpad usability and battery life notwithstanding) that it could get some people to get one over the MBA, except that Dell completely blows it with their presentation. The site is completely Flash and tries to do one of those fancy scrolling sites, exc…

720p means 1280x720, 1080p means 1920x1080.

edit: apparently not, see sibling comment

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#38
post #8

So I clicked through this article, expecting something that totally misses the point (like their Adamo a few years ago). It doesn't match my immediate expectations. Which is good! The machine looks solid. I don't know if I like it more than my Air, but it looks promising. I keep clicking through. In a machine like this, two things really matter: keyboard and display. As allwein says in another comment thread, they do…

Seems like putting in a crappy display is what allowed them to hit the $999 price point. Screen aside, it is reasonably close to the MacBook Air (real world keyboard/trackpad usability and battery life notwithstanding) that it could get some people to get one over the MBA, except that Dell completely blows it with their presentation. The site is completely Flash and tries to do one of those fancy scrolling sites, exc…

It means 1366x768 like usual "720p" displays.

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#39
post #8

So I clicked through this article, expecting something that totally misses the point (like their Adamo a few years ago). It doesn't match my immediate expectations. Which is good! The machine looks solid. I don't know if I like it more than my Air, but it looks promising. I keep clicking through. In a machine like this, two things really matter: keyboard and display. As allwein says in another comment thread, they do…

Dell should have mentioned the resolution specifically, but it's also 1366 x 768, not 1280x720(720p).

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xpsL321x/en/sp...

Re: Dell launches Ultrabook for $999

#40
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aluminum is easily machinable, lightweight, has great heat transfer, can be annodized so that it has a nice surface finish, and is not that expensive. Titanium would be a good choice as well, but it is far more expensive. Steel isn't a good choice for a variety of reasons, but #1 in my mind is surface finish. Typically you have to paint or plate steel. A high end plastic or composite can be made nice, but people are…

So nothing would have stopped them from using a high end plastic or a nice composite? Something that would tell their product apart from a MacBook Air? It is a pity they did not try.

>So nothing would have stopped them from using a high end plastic or a nice composite?

Besides the fact that this would make it not look like a MacBook?

>Something that would tell their product apart from a MacBook Air?

They're not aiming for "not MacBook". They're aiming for "we also have a MacBook!"

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