How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?
Silicon Valley and investor nepotism. The sad reality is that tech, no matter what size, is an elite club. Some get to play, some don’t.
Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it
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#32How do Backblaze and Cloudflare R2 get away with being storage and not violating these kinds of terms?
By offering storage solutions, not music storage solutions.
(not blaming OP, it's a cool project and a shame that people aren't being allowed to exercise their right to make a private copy)
Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it
#33Why not move to a different payment processor?
Stripe didn't kill your service, you did by not building it with the ability to switch to a different processor.
This comes up a lot but instead of victim shaming, we need to look at the fact that a lot of small mom and pop indie businesses do not have the resources, time and need to really have a backup plan like the one you are suggesting. The cost of implementing a backup processor for a small indie business is almost always not worth it. In hindsight in this case, one could argue but no.
Instead, we need to hold Stripe responsible to do a better due diligence upfront if they want to do business with these small indie hackers. That was the point of Stripe and now they have become that giant incumbent.
I am not advocating against Stripe relaxing their rules. I am just saying that they need to do better job enforcing early on than one random day. If it was not good enough today, it was not good enough on Day 1. Stripe needs to invest in figuring that out early. Reject me on Day 1 than Day 90 or a year later.
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#34I wonder if things looked different if you had a legal team and deep pockets. It's worrying that this concentration of wealth and such services acting as gatekeepers and essentially deciding whether you can run your business or not are not properly regulated yet. I mean, it certainly plays into hands of big corporations, who don't want to see new players and challengers on the market. The way things seem to be going…
Maybe the laws should be changed so that freedom of association is properly only a human right, and for corporate persons, instead having it be a privilege that phases out as the corporation grows, and going away entirely for FAANG-sized corporations.
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#35Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it
#36Sorry about this. I work at Stripe — could you email me at edwin@stripe.com and we can dig into this further?
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#37Re: Tell HN: Stripe killed my music locker service, so I'm open sourcing it
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not being advertised for or primarily used for copyright infringement.
In what way is uploading the music you bought to private cloud storage illegal? Google Music asked me to upload songs and I did. Is Google really going to get sued to oblivion? I doubt it.
Depends where you live
In the UK its technically illegal to rip a CD to your own PC to back it up, for example, see the recent high court case(s) about it where the government won against Brennan (who make hifi gear which can do this) - no different to this app.
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#39Sorry about this. I work at Stripe — could you email me at edwin@stripe.com and we can dig into this further?
Why is it so hard to fix your processes instead of relying on the HN Support Forum for the privileged few that know it’s an option?
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#40What is stopping more people from using blockchain networks for payments on their SaaS? From what I've seen, the transactions are just as easy to craft as a Stripe API.