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A Classic Startup Horror Story

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Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#31

if you want it to not happen again, you have to name names. otherwise, there's no downside to this company.

Any downside for the company would be so short-lived it wouldn't be worth it. Like most ragefests, it'd die down at the next controversy and be forgotten.

They're not naming names because they value the lesson more than the temporary shaming.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#32
post #21

All is not lost, and the start-up shouldn't despair, for a couple of reasons: 1. It's not unknown for acquisition deals to get put on the back burner for a while, even a year or two. That happened to my former company when it was acquired. (This history was publicly disclosed in my company's proxy filing with the SEC [1].) 2. The Company's lawyers are likely to tell them, forcefully, to be very careful about trying t…

> The Company might well become very cautious about trying to redevelop the technology, precisely because of the NDA.

I seriously doubt it.

> In a somewhat-similar situation in the mid-1990s, Rockwell International got tagged by a jury for almost $58 million for breach of an NDA concerning circuitry for improving data transmission rates over analog cell phones.

What fraction of revenue was that? For a semi firm, that sounds like small-cost-of-doing-business when compared to cell-phone revenues.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#33
post #25

This sort of scenario is unfortunately very common. The antidote is never to allow acquisition talks to be the main thing you're focusing on. We advise startups who get approached by acquirers to treat it as a background process, and not to take things seriously until the very last stage. If acquisition discussions are just a side show, you can easily terminate them if anything goes wrong. Which, interestingly, proba…

> M&A guys can smell it when you really want a deal, and that makes them want it less. This seems perverse, but I'm guessing that there's some kind of economic intuition these guys have gained from being around deals all the time? Something like, "Wants a deal == needs it == a bad investment." This just seems to confirm that the best way to get money thrown at you is to not have a need for it.

> This just seems to confirm that the best way to get money thrown at you is to not have a need for it.

Law of the jungle: If it runs, chase it. If chased, run.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#34
OK, I dont know much about start ups (I lurk here because of the quality of stories and comment), but here in the UK what I see often are start-ups who seem to rely on the idea that they will run at a loss, often large loss, in the expectation that they will either float or get bought up, rather than perusing a model where the start-up can be profitable on it's own. I've worked for a couple during ye olde dot com boom!!!

OK, I understand that model and I can see the sense in it, but does it not set up a situation where the start-up is so dependent on some one buying them up that they can get over keen once potential buyers circle, resulting in them becoming vulnerable to the iffy behaviour of bigger businesses.

Seems to be a critical point in the business, where the founders can run in to trouble, for reasonable human reasons. Perhaps some sort of help is required in this area?

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're intelligent if you don't demand an NDA?

Not quite. It's more like: You're not intelligent if you think an NDA is worth a damn (as the article shows.)

When good people sign a NDA it counts for something.

When you're dealing with lying buggers though, it represents an option to sue. Insurance is similar.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#36
This happens all the time, even for acquisitions which eventually succeed. Eric Sink sold his company to Microsoft and mentioned at the BoS 2010 conference that the deal status was "Totally dead: neither party will take any more action regarding this opportunity" two separate times prior to them finally doing it.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#37
post #31

if you want it to not happen again, you have to name names. otherwise, there's no downside to this company.

Any downside for the company would be so short-lived it wouldn't be worth it. Like most ragefests, it'd die down at the next controversy and be forgotten. They're not naming names because they value the lesson more than the temporary shaming.

not if you are GoDaddy.. SOPA sticks like a mother f'er

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#38
post #2

Having seen a startup in Austin, TX go through this same kind of thing, I would guess its more common than the author makes it sound here. The best defense is to build a technology that isn't cheap to reproduce. There is no better moat than killer IP.

I can't really think of any recent companies that have killer IP. The difference might be an elegant solution vs someone from high school copying samples from codeproject/stackoverflow.

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#39
post #21

All is not lost, and the start-up shouldn't despair, for a couple of reasons: 1. It's not unknown for acquisition deals to get put on the back burner for a while, even a year or two. That happened to my former company when it was acquired. (This history was publicly disclosed in my company's proxy filing with the SEC [1].) 2. The Company's lawyers are likely to tell them, forcefully, to be very careful about trying t…

NDA is not the same as non-compete, or am I wrong on this?

Re: A Classic Startup Horror Story

#40
If you agree to these terms, we have a gentlemen’s agreement that you’ll stop talking to other companies?

Hint: This is when you say I can do that for X months in exchange for Y breakup fee if this deal falls though.

PS: You can still increase Breakup fee's later in the process, but this is little reason to stop talking to stop considering other offers without being paid to do so.

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