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Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

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post #6

this is so sad. i understand the protest, but it feels like burning books. is all that prior information gone? or is the protest temporary way to get the community migrated away but content will be restored for historical purposes?

books rot over time, and when there are billions of books being produced daily it's not reasonable to expect all of it to stick around

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#32
post #6

this is so sad. i understand the protest, but it feels like burning books. is all that prior information gone? or is the protest temporary way to get the community migrated away but content will be restored for historical purposes?

more like building a new library

After burning the current one, books and all.

Granted this had to do with the fact that unlike any other agreed upon standard protocol, Reddit posts are not accessible except by indirect means, i.e. you can’t download the contents of a community the same way you would with a git repository or an email server and migrate it elsewhere.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#33
post #22
post #4

What is/was stopping Reddit from doing this: - Decide that you don't want third-party apps. - Buy out all the big players (Apollo, etc.) and integrate some of their tooling into your own app/core. I understand it would have cost a lot of money, but they could have found a middle-ground where everyone is happy. Instead, they're throwing a stupid tantrum that could end up costing them a lot more than it would have cost…

Much easier to say "subreddits can no longer be private"

"After a long and hard discussion together with the Snoos, we have decided to shut Reddit down. It wasn't us, it was you."

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#34
post #6

this is so sad. i understand the protest, but it feels like burning books. is all that prior information gone? or is the protest temporary way to get the community migrated away but content will be restored for historical purposes?

They can transfer the information if they want, API changes don't go through for another couple of weeks and archives do exist.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#35
post #29
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to be a jerk about it, but this is why you shouldn't have stored the books in a warehouse owned by a company that could lock the doors at any time. This is the opposite of why the 'net was invented.

What was the other option, realistically? There are barely other options today, never mind 15 years ago.

I guess it's fine that 15 years ago the users chose Reddit due to the lack of good alternatives. But today people should be aware of the problem and go to decentralized platforms.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#36
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

more like building a new library

After burning the current one, books and all. Granted this had to do with the fact that unlike any other agreed upon standard protocol, Reddit posts are not accessible except by indirect means, i.e. you can’t download the contents of a community the same way you would with a git repository or an email server and migrate it elsewhere.

If you can enumerate all of the threads in a subreddit, each thread is a blob of JSON when you tack `.json` on to the end.

Tangentially, https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/12ucc9z/downlo... and https://old.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/c93rdt/how_do_i_...

A sibling comment mentions ArchiveTeam, which ends up in the Wayback Machine. Some work to be done around tools to make that corpus more readily available for consumption and perhaps backfill. Lots of existing tooling to query the Internet Archive's CDX servers to understand what coverage looks like and retrieve archived content.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#38
HN being endlessly contrarian is really weird sometimes. You are in real-time witnessing the rebirth of community hosted and run forums. The thing HN has been lamenting the death of forever.

This isn't some "migrate from walled garden A to walled garden B", this is the community setting up new-age phpBB except it's federated and interoperates with any and all ActivityPub.

You can subscribe to /r/startrek from your Twitter account. You can add people on Twitter and blogs to your Reddit feed. If this ends up not succeeding I wouldn't gloat because this is the endgame us tech nerds have asked for forever.

Re: /r/startrek/ migrates to lemmy

#40

And for those of us with no interest in following the mods, can /r/Startrek be opened again? If the old mods moved platforms, there’s no need to keep this private.

Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing". People openly talk about this as the reason that HackerNews continues to be such a vibrant community. Replacing the mods will change the community, full stop. Could be for the better , could be for the worse.

Some people feel that way. Me, I'm all for basic site-wide rules and automated moderation, as little as possible, and let me decide on the rest. Open it back up. There's no way it should just re-direct people to a competing site because that's what the old mods prefer.
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