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The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by ParetoOptimal »

empyrrhicist wrote: post #14
malfist wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm afraid you might be right. Most of the reddit clones or alternatives are cesspits of right wing hate, I guess that's because historically the only people fleeing reddit have been those that are too toxic for reddit to allow. I'm hopeful the atmosphere changes, but I believe discord or hive might be the best positioned to be the refuge. Discord is awful for anything not transient. Hive has the whole web3 nonsense…

I'm not super familiar with how the fediverse works, but I was able to join a Lemmy instance that doesn't seem to fit that bill.

> but I was able to join a Lemmy instance that doesn't seem to fit that bil

Yeah, the way to avoid racism other cess pools on Mastodon seems to be choosing a server that mods and frequently updates ban lists.

https://hachyderm.io tops that list for me.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by tedivm »

king_magic wrote: post #13
malfist wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man says "I ate lunch, why are people starving?"

More like “man says I ate lunch, some people didn’t eat lunch for a few days, but now most people are back to eating lunch”. This was Occupy Wall Street all over again. A disorganized mess of a protest with no chance at making a difference.

Occupy Wall Street changed things a lot more than people seem willing to admit. At a minimum it kept the US from going the same "austerity" direction that Europe did around the same time.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/how-occupy...

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by hidden80 »

CleanCoder wrote: post #29

Who owns the user-generated content? Would it be feasible to clone Reddit (the site) and populate it with content scraped directly from Reddit? One could potentially even claim the same username by verifying their ownership of it on Reddit. Of course it's not easy but a mass social migration might be more practical than mass segregation in hopes of something else to slowly gaining traction.

I was about to ask this exact thing.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by AdamN »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

This is reminding me of when all the Vine power creators banded together and tried to make demands or they would "stop creating" and all it resulted in was Twitter deleting them and their entire website. Don't be surprised if Reddit starts taking some pretty drastic action here on the grounds that they're violating one of the site's oldest rules which is "don't break Reddit". Not saying it's good or bad, but just tha…

Reddit will take over the subreddits and a few moderators will lose their privs. About 25% of users will permanently leave. Reddit will go on but it won't be what it was unless the board takes drastic action but even then it's probably too late.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by IAmNotAFix »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #24

The front page, ie. /r/all and /r/popular a virtually indistinguishable from the same three days ago. There are memes, news, tik tok videos, sports, etc. Power users aside, I suspect the typical reddit user's experience is virtually unchanged.

Mainstream's reddit experience is clicking on Reddit links from Google. Many of which are dead as of right now.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by Wojtkie »

king_magic wrote: post #8

I barely noticed the blackout. And pretty much every subreddit I use is back up and running. Blackout had next to zero impact in the short term, and I doubt it will have any lasting impact.

Same boat. I try to follow more niche subs and unsubscribed from any of the large ones. I can't notice it from my home page. Popular has been a lot different on the other hand.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by malermeister »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #26
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

> What happens next. Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord... Which is awful, with how siloed and noisy Discord is. I hope I am wrong, and that a good alternative gains traction.

I wonder if there is an opportunity for some grassroots data liberation from Discord. I.e. if a tool that allows admins / users to scrape and mirror discord server data somewhere. Also how come there is no more open, not CCP-aligned Discord alternative yet?

Isn't that what matrix is?

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by code51 »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

> What happens next. Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord... Which is awful, with how siloed and noisy Discord is. I hope I am wrong, and that a good alternative gains traction.

Where would they advertise their Discord servers though? You still need to use the Reddit platform to carry over large user bases - which means at one point mods should briefly end blackout. But how to coordinate that without giving in?

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Post by AdamN »

soperj wrote: post #25
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #17

This is reminding me of when all the Vine power creators banded together and tried to make demands or they would "stop creating" and all it resulted in was Twitter deleting them and their entire website. Don't be surprised if Reddit starts taking some pretty drastic action here on the grounds that they're violating one of the site's oldest rules which is "don't break Reddit". Not saying it's good or bad, but just tha…

And Tiktok took that and made it a billion dollar business. Twitter sure showed them.

Twitter is also a billion dollar business ... too bad it used to be a $44 billion business.
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