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Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Post by laserbeam »

alpaca128 wrote: post #29
laserbeam wrote: post #16

So, not only this promotes itself to be a copy of Reddit, but also trashes the CEO in the name of the clone. Now don't get me wrong, I support the protest and an alternative to reddit. However, the way this is framed sounds like a one way street to a losing lawsuit. At least a very expensive one.

You're making this sound a lot more heinous than it is. The name of the site just implies it doesn't involve Spez, and it's just a nickname. There's a large difference between "spezless" and something like "huffmansucks".

I'm trying to put myself into spez's shoes. If I were him, I would sue. Sure... It's quite benign at surface level, but I'd definitely sue if this became popular.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

#32

Post by memefrog »

laserbeam wrote: post #31
alpaca128 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making this sound a lot more heinous than it is. The name of the site just implies it doesn't involve Spez, and it's just a nickname. There's a large difference between "spezless" and something like "huffmansucks".

I'm trying to put myself into spez's shoes. If I were him, I would sue. Sure... It's quite benign at surface level, but I'd definitely sue if this became popular.

Sue on what grounds?

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Post by Mengkudulangsat »

Hasu wrote: post #19
Mengkudulangsat wrote: post #12

90% of revenues go to moderators and power users.... and where exactly are these revenues coming from? So far, all these alternatives I'm reading about can't convincingly explain how they plan to pay for themselves.

> So far, all these alternatives I'm reading about can't convincingly explain how they plan to pay for themselves. For most of its existence, Reddit hasn't been able to convincingly explain how it can pay for itself, and it still can't. The company currently isn't and I don't think has ever been profitable.

Which is why Reddit got into its current predicament in the first place.

Profits may be optional (depending on the goals of the organization), but breakeven is mandatory.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Post by memefrog »

0x0203 wrote: post #25
Mengkudulangsat wrote: post #12

90% of revenues go to moderators and power users.... and where exactly are these revenues coming from? So far, all these alternatives I'm reading about can't convincingly explain how they plan to pay for themselves.

Honest question: roughly how much would running a link-aggregator website like (early) reddit actually cost, assuming text only user-submissions (links/comments), 50 million daily users, and an uptime similar to reddit? If one magically had the users and wasn't interested in personal profit, how cheaply could it be done effectively?

50 million daily users is a lot. In ~2012, Reddit apparently had ~1.5m DAU. That was still a pretty decent website. Pulling random numbers out of the hat, maybe each daily active user makes 5 requests per day, on average? Many might just open up one thread, but a Pareto distribution means a small percentage would make hundreds of requests per day. So maybe more than 5? To be conservative, let's say 10.

So that's 15m requests per day. That's about 200 per second. Couldn't you do that on a single server using just PHP? Obviously these are just ballpark estimates but really.

When you say uptime similar to reddit, do you mean uptime similar to reddit now? Or similar to early reddit? Early reddit constantly threw errors at busy times.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Post by alpaca128 »

laserbeam wrote: post #31
alpaca128 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making this sound a lot more heinous than it is. The name of the site just implies it doesn't involve Spez, and it's just a nickname. There's a large difference between "spezless" and something like "huffmansucks".

I'm trying to put myself into spez's shoes. If I were him, I would sue. Sure... It's quite benign at surface level, but I'd definitely sue if this became popular.

> I'm trying to put myself into spez's shoes. If I were him, I would sue.

Yes, that's what I'd expect from an admin who abuses their power to win arguments through manipulation and falsely accuses others of blackmailing him while being disproven by evidence. If he sues "spezless" it's not because he's being reasonable, but because he's spez.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

#37

Post by kjeksfjes »

printvoid wrote: post #3

You need more than 15000 signups just for building a counter. By that logic you are not going to get reddit with all the functionalities for 1M signups. lol

I'd say your logic is a bit flawed if you think that the logic for what to do when reaching 15K signups needs to be identical to the logic for what to do when reaching 1M signups. The reasoning for each goal can be totally different.

That said, personally I'm not going to use a site branded around the name spez.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

#38

Post by kjeksfjes »

laserbeam wrote: post #31
alpaca128 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making this sound a lot more heinous than it is. The name of the site just implies it doesn't involve Spez, and it's just a nickname. There's a large difference between "spezless" and something like "huffmansucks".

I'm trying to put myself into spez's shoes. If I were him, I would sue. Sure... It's quite benign at surface level, but I'd definitely sue if this became popular.

Lol. Huffman has the legal rights and ownership of the name spez, as much as you have the legal rights and ownership of the name laserbeam.

Re: Spezless – A Reddit clone without u/Spez

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Post by slowmovintarget »

number6 wrote: post #28
predictabl3 wrote: post #24

Beyond obvious criticisms that others have pointed out, I'm not signing up for any platform that's not federated, idc if I'm on a site with 3 other users. I am done with rugpulls.

As you are mentioning rugpulls, all this clones are missing a key ingredient: Blockchain! Upvotes should be bound to a token. Companies or you can buy upvotes for promotion, or use your own stash that you earned in creating good comments. I am bit sad that no one is doing this. Would be the perfect storm if the Blockchain days weren't over...

I see your Blockchain and raise you one Generative AI. This new tech will write your posts and comments for you! Watch the fake internet points roll in!
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