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Vision Pro’s Big Reveal

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The Vision Pro is probably the most advanced consumer tech available and it's by far the best AR/VR headset. However, it's DOA. It's going to flop and Apple knows it but they know that they need to release it now to let developers and users show them what it's true purpose will be. The real deal will be the AR glasses, not these big ski goggles that nobody wants to wear.

I admit that I thought the same thing about Apple Watch and it seems to be doing quite well these days.

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I’m sure this will succeed. Unlike the quest it’ll be able to use millions of existing iOS and iPadOS apps.

The cost is a hard pill to swallow but at the end of the day even $500 for a quest 3 is expensive and people will buy that too.

Re: Vision Pro’s Big Reveal

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The Vision Pro is probably the most advanced consumer tech available and it's by far the best AR/VR headset. However, it's DOA. It's going to flop and Apple knows it but they know that they need to release it now to let developers and users show them what it's true purpose will be. The real deal will be the AR glasses, not these big ski goggles that nobody wants to wear.

Why do I have a feeling this is going to age like all of the people who posted on Slashdot over 20 years ago.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/21026

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The Vision Pro is probably the most advanced consumer tech available and it's by far the best AR/VR headset. However, it's DOA. It's going to flop and Apple knows it but they know that they need to release it now to let developers and users show them what it's true purpose will be. The real deal will be the AR glasses, not these big ski goggles that nobody wants to wear.

It’s not dead on arrival as it’s purpose is not to be a massive consumer success. It’s purpose is to get the ball rolling, it is an early adopter release that will get developers started, and that may have some useful purpose for some pro use cases where cost and size is not an issue. Apple is most likely already working on versions 2 and 3 and maybe 4 that will be smaller, more powerful and more useful. Technology j…

I love it. I can't overstate how much I love it. Honestly, I feel like this is the first "real" VR headset and I'm wildly excited about the applications. Pretty much any sci-fi VR imagination is possible here, as long as it only utilizes visual and audio output (no haptics, etc). People saying "this is useless" are effectively saying "there is no killer VR/AR app that has ever appeared in the corpus of science fiction" and I'm not ready to accept that tenet.

Although I just learned apps will not have access to live eye tracking (so, much much less eye tracking data than Tobii eye tracker). Although I quickly understood how evil this would be if provided to app makers like TikTok, it still disappoints me because there are so many "expand context on hover" applications would could be super seamless. Now those will all require a click, but that's the responsible tradeoff.

Yes it's super expensive. It's a whole MacBook Pro with three displays and an extra major chip (R1). The price for the hardware makes perfect sense to me. The price for the product...probably not. But if they can stick with it for long enough for the price to come down, and maybe make a lighter cheaper plastic version some day to save weight for all-day wear, I think this will be absolutely huge. Especially if they can ever let your eyes focus to infinity.

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It’s a tool. Don’t want the tool? Don’t use it. There are absolutely going to be use-cases for it, even if Baudrillard would prefer we all just use our imaginations. Who needs a car when all we need is to just stroll amongst the trees and let nature fuel our imaginations? Because I need to get to the airport on time and with a bunch of luggage.

Funny metaphir when walkability has been a preeminent fad for years now. What’s the walkable city, mass transit, bike lane analogy for AR/VR?

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The Vision Pro is probably the most advanced consumer tech available and it's by far the best AR/VR headset. However, it's DOA. It's going to flop and Apple knows it but they know that they need to release it now to let developers and users show them what it's true purpose will be. The real deal will be the AR glasses, not these big ski goggles that nobody wants to wear.

It isn't a "flop" if Apple knows this and expects to sell a very small number of these devices. This is a first version of a device in a very niche market that will take a long time for it to hit mainstream (if it ever does). Apple even danced around this quite a few times in how they talked about this particular product. For the first time, maybe ever, Apple hinted at future products while talking about this. I thin…

"For the first time, maybe ever, Apple hinted at future products while talking about this. I think this was made even more clear with it having the "Pro" name attached."

To my knowledge this does have precedence when Apple announced they were switching from PPC to Intel. The first computer announced was the MacBook Pro, insinuating that a regular MacBook would be forthcoming to replace the iBook.

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Intriguing little bit of poetry here. But this I don’t quite understand: “It shows us a time when entering a virtual world required a gizmo. That’s the past, not the future.” In what sense is entering a virtual world without a “gizmo” a present or future reality? Are they talking about imagination, with “virtual” used in an unusual (from a tech perspective) way?

A lot of postmodern thought results in the formation of cults, in which people occupy a virtual world inside their own minds.

How about a metamodernist cult instead- what if the future is a gizmo-mind hybrid? That’s right, I’m talking about the Neuralink.

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I am curious. How many people buy the $1-2K phone flagships... then there's this. People buy a $2K MBP is it a huge jump to go to $3.5K? I would like to see it succeed. Edit: my concern with it, is will it be like an iPad. I pre-ordered simula one which doesn't event exist yet and won't be on par with this hardware wise. But it will be a fully open Linux OS. You could just write/run programs eg. in whatever language…

Am MBP plus a studio display is about $3.5k. Nobody seems to object to that pricing.

A MBP has a keyboard, several hours of battery life, and a couple decades of precedent that has allowed a large catalog of applications to form. The iGooglyEyePro isn't there yet.

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I have long been skeptical of AI/AR because I also don’t feel like being strapped in like that. But I can see this as being useful for dedicated tasks: surgeons, building or repairing a PC, inspecting a buildings. It will be more of a professional tool than consumer tool I think.

> But I can see this as being useful for dedicated tasks Possibly, but Oculus already exists, and has existed for a while. Did this market materialize? Honest question, I don't follow Meta/Oculus news closely.

I have no opinion on this device or the Oculus, the thing I can say is that the Oculus is not an AR device, only VR.
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