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World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by koheripbal »

hutzlibu wrote: post #8
PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

We were lucky nuclear war didn't happen, and it still might.

I think the risk of nuclear war is higher now, with more nations having more weapons, fewer treaties preventing profession, and an increasingly multipolar power dynamic in international affairs.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by willcipriano »

hutzlibu wrote: post #8
PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

> But wasn't that always the case?

Nope and it isn't the case now. End of the world cults are a common feature of human societies, pretty much all of them have/had them. My personal guess is that egos are so big that people can't imagine a world after them so it's easier to say the world is going to end.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by vondur »

hutzlibu wrote: post #8
PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

China doesn't care one bit about climate change. China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-...

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by adonig »

ioslipstream wrote: post #12

For an alternate take on this: https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/166465744222596300... His data suggests that the rate of rise in ocean temperatures can not possibly be due to man made circumstances and is instead due to earth core leakage.

It's interesting all the responses below here go full ad hominem.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by _Microft »

aeonik wrote: post #30
PheonixPharts wrote: post #5

It's certainly a strange time to be alive. I was explaining to my child my work in AI, showing him images of himself as a character from his DnD campaign and at the same time am gently introducing him to the increasingly dire state of our climate. For parents of my generation "the talk" is not about sex, it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children. It feels like I am very literally li…

I'm confused, what do you mean there's not going to be a future for them? No doubt there's going to be some challenges, but I thought all that carbon was in the atmosphere and oceans before it was sequestered by plants and alagae. I thought the major issue was the speed of change, but we really don't know what life is thing to do in response. According to this article, during the Cambrian, the earth was 10C hotter th…

OK, so this is fine? (No, I do not believe that)

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by hutzlibu »

katbyte wrote: post #18
hutzlibu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

The need to not burn coal goes beyond CO2, the particulates and radiation coal plants put out is terrible for health. Coal has, and continues, to cause more deaths then nuclear ever has and produces radioactive ash while at it.

I did not debate that, but russia has also a history of not really caring about pollution.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by tpmx »

So it all boils down to how https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/optimum-interpolation-sst is created.

The NOAA 1/4° Daily Optimum Interpolation Sea Surface Temperature (OISST) is a long term Climate Data Record that incorporates observations from different platforms (satellites, ships, buoys and Argo floats) into a regular global grid. The dataset is interpolated to fill gaps on the grid and create a spatially complete map of sea surface temperature. Satellite and ship observations are referenced to buoys to compensate for platform differences and sensor biases.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by [deleted] »

tpmx wrote: post #37

So it all boils down to how https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/optimum-interpolation-sst is created. The NOAA 1/4° Daily Optimum Interpolation Sea Surface Temperature (OISST) is a long term Climate Data Record that incorporates observations from different platforms (satellites, ships, buoys and Argo floats) into a regular global grid. The dataset is interpolated to fill gaps on the grid and create a spatially complet…

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Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by nightski »

edgefield wrote: post #24
slily wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, let's shut down the contrarians by making fun of them or calling them words, there is clearly no room to discuss complex phenomena, as we have learned in the last few years dealing with COVID-19 "misinformation".

OP wouldn’t be so skeptical except for the fact that 99% of scientists have been raising the alarm bells about climate change for 50 years and mainly politicians and commentators, often with little to no expertise and significantly biased due to fossil fuel connections and donations, have been questioning and undermining the science.

I think that just demonstrates the point that maybe scientists put too much emphasis on the science itself when what really matters is influencing people.

Re: World’s oceans at record high temperature for 80 consecutive days

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Post by adrianN »

vondur wrote: post #33
hutzlibu wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"it's about the reality that we might not have a future to offer our children." But wasn't that always the case? War was always around the corner and nuclear missile threat amplified it. Btw. it seems the war made russia change its stance and some official "scientific" commitee has decided, that climate warming comes simply from radiation inside earth that follows a natural pattern. So no need to not burn coal then.…

China doesn't care one bit about climate change. China is building six times more new coal plants than other countries, report finds: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-...

China's CO2/kWh is going down reasonably quickly for a growing economy. They could do a lot better of course (couldn't we all?), but they're not just building coal plants; they're also building renewables and nuclear. "China does X Y-times more than other countries" is a headline that can be recycled for almost every topic. There are 1.4 billion people in China.
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