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Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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> no one knew if it was a new black death or just a harmless virus When did "no one know"? There was already data in early May 2020 showing risk by age group https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1260542469256753153

The people that just went along with it didn't know. They stuck their fingers in their ears and called the rest of us bad people. At least we know who they are now.

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

#32
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I looked at Out World in Data [0] at the time and from the numbers it was very clear to me that it was a disease that was mainly risky for old people and people with co-morbidities. At that point it was clear to me that most people wouldn't need to be very scared. --- [0]: https://ourworldindata.org

I was scared because I had elderly relatives. The idea that we should only worry about ourselves feels deeply immoral to me.

What about the idea that we should do every panicky thing we are told, including shun loved ones and demand people be rounded up or locked in their houses forcibly? Does that feel deeply immoral to you?

Re: Exclusive: Ministers had ‘chilling’ secret unit to curb lockdown dissent

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One issue is that it's a political decision on which citizens were protected. Should we close schools semi-indefinitely to protect the elderly after vaccines were widely available (like in SF)? Shutting down debates on these issues was and is controversial.

The elderly vote Conservative, almost by definition. QED.

Not women, and they far out survive men. QED?
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