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Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

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Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

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Wow, there must be literally tens of people who are worried right now! My shitty, snarky comment aside, I am genuinely curious about why someone would choose Oracle as a cloud provider. If you look at their capex spend, it's undeniable they have so vastly underinvested in their cloud compared to AWS, Azure and GCP, that even if you were an "Oracle shop" I'm genuinely curious what benefits their cloud would offer. Edi…

They have a good free tier: ARM Ampere instance with 24 GB memory.

Even in pay as you go they have it much cheaper than in azure or gcp.

Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

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Wow, there must be literally tens of people who are worried right now! My shitty, snarky comment aside, I am genuinely curious about why someone would choose Oracle as a cloud provider. If you look at their capex spend, it's undeniable they have so vastly underinvested in their cloud compared to AWS, Azure and GCP, that even if you were an "Oracle shop" I'm genuinely curious what benefits their cloud would offer. Edi…

I just read a claim in the Wall Street Journal the other day that said Elon Musk supposedly just bought up their entire available fleet of GPU instances.

Edit: adding link [1] sorry for the paywall

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-ai-boom-runs-on-chips-but-i...

Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

#35

Wow, there must be literally tens of people who are worried right now! My shitty, snarky comment aside, I am genuinely curious about why someone would choose Oracle as a cloud provider. If you look at their capex spend, it's undeniable they have so vastly underinvested in their cloud compared to AWS, Azure and GCP, that even if you were an "Oracle shop" I'm genuinely curious what benefits their cloud would offer. Edi…

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Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

#37

Wow, there must be literally tens of people who are worried right now! My shitty, snarky comment aside, I am genuinely curious about why someone would choose Oracle as a cloud provider. If you look at their capex spend, it's undeniable they have so vastly underinvested in their cloud compared to AWS, Azure and GCP, that even if you were an "Oracle shop" I'm genuinely curious what benefits their cloud would offer. Edi…

Oracle's vendor lock-in should be given its own category in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders

Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

#38

Wow, there must be literally tens of people who are worried right now! My shitty, snarky comment aside, I am genuinely curious about why someone would choose Oracle as a cloud provider. If you look at their capex spend, it's undeniable they have so vastly underinvested in their cloud compared to AWS, Azure and GCP, that even if you were an "Oracle shop" I'm genuinely curious what benefits their cloud would offer. Edi…

"I didn't know Oracle cloud offered a decent free tier"

It's more than their free tier[1]. There are a number of nice things in OCI. For example: Redundant control plane hosts for their non-"free tier" k8s clusters are free. The equivalent of AWS's cross-AZ traffic is free (as opposed to $0.02/GB at AWS); a huge win for certain use cases. They're using a open, platform agnostic "specification" (the Fn Project[2]) for serverless cloud functions, which is wonderful for local dev and test. Terraform is tier 1 with OCI; from documentation through support Terraform is the reference "infrastructure as code" solution on OCI, always comprehensive and robust. Oracle Linux is pretty good; better than Amazon Linux has been, although with AL2023 Amazon is starting to close the gap. OCI instance shapes are very flexible. Overall costs are lower; Oracle is aggressively competing on price. Instance live migration (à la KVM live migrate) is a thing at OCI, so Oracle can live migrate running instances to isolate failing hardware.

I could go on.

Yes, I'd say OCI isn't as stable as AWS. Anecdotally: I get occasional "event notification" in my inbox; perhaps 4 in roughly 2 years, which is fewer (1) than I've seen from AWS in the same time. All but 1 was tangential, didn't actually impact anything that matters, and were quickly resolved. I actually received the OCI notice in my email today before it popped up on HN, which is "different" than how it usually goes with AWS.

[1] My experience is limited to AWS and OCI. [2] https://fnproject.io/

p.s. I appreciate that Oracle has earned the hate it receives from most, and I too have been a victim in my prehistoric past. OCI is, however, different; it's a pay-as-you-go platform that provides Oracle with no customer-abuse opportunities given the strength of the competitors, and my experience with it has been entirely cromulent.

Re: Oracle Cloud is having a major outage

#40

Well, if the status page says they are up do the SLAs really apply? (half kidding, this seems like an oracle thing to do)

They need SVP+ level approval to mark disruption/unavailability.

I love this because I honestly can't tell if its a joke. It's obviously a terrible idea.... but also seems like something Oracle would do.
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