Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

Post by Erem » Thu, May 25, 2023, 10:41 PM UTC

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The quality of Tesla vehicles are objectively terrible. I had looked at purchasing one 4-5 years ago when they were all the hype and I walked away from the test drive dissapointed. Yes you push the pedal and it go fast. Everyone with a Tesla loves to show that off that and I can't dispute it. But the actual ride quality is (or at least was) truly horrible. Terrible road noise and suspension that bottoms out and rebou…

It's a big seller and it's impossible to argue with that. But I also fail to see their niche. You're a big spender and you want everyone to know it? Lucid. You want the ultimate in efficiency? Hyundai Ioniq is as good as the Y. Don't have much money? Fiat 500e.

  1. Small enough to reasonable park in a dense city
  2. Has 7 seats, so we can drive with 2 kids, Grandma, and some of the kids friends
  3. Has 300+ miles per charge

Post by websap » Thu, May 25, 2023, 10:41 PM UTC

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I've heard some auto analysts suggesting that Tesla's trick to drop their car prices was not necessarily an act of desperation, as much as an action of opportunity. While all other car manufacturers are upping prices and increasing lead times, Tesla is taking advantage of this by having vehicles available and lowering prices in order to gain market-share in a time when other manufacturers are expecting and preparing…

My gf wanted to buy a hybrid Toyota RAV4. Hard to find, little choice of incoming units, and they want $5k over MSRP. She was very hesitant to get a full EV. But now seeing how dealers want over MSRP on the RAV4... She's 95% sold on the Model 3.

Post by jacurtis » Thu, May 25, 2023, 10:43 PM UTC

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jacurtis wrote: post #18

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The quality of Tesla vehicles are objectively terrible. I had looked at purchasing one 4-5 years ago when they were all the hype and I walked away from the test drive dissapointed. Yes you push the pedal and it go fast. Everyone with a Tesla loves to show that off that and I can't dispute it. But the actual ride quality is (or at least was) truly horrible. Terrible road noise and suspension that bottoms out and rebou…

If the global auto market outcome doesn’t send strong signal, I don’t know what does. Consumers are willing to overlook what you mention for status and experience. This should be no surprise, as a vehicle purchase is highly emotional. If you build a sexy brand, people will buy your brand. “S3XY”. Tesla spent two decades ramping manufacturing, a global fast DC charge networks, and the mentioned brand. It’s simply payi…

Post by tempfortwitt90 » Thu, May 25, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

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My gf wanted to buy a hybrid Toyota RAV4. Hard to find, little choice of incoming units, and they want $5k over MSRP. She was very hesitant to get a full EV. But now seeing how dealers want over MSRP on the RAV4... She's 95% sold on the Model 3.

Its not even a comparison when it comes to driving experience. I dislike how minimalist the interiors of Teslas are, but they are so fun to drive. The Model 3 especially!

Post by websap » Thu, May 25, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

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Some people (like myself) prefer a sporty ride. They're really fun to drive. I own one and don't regret it. Obviously no car will appeal to everyone but clearly Tesla has a market despite the nay-sayers. edit: The purchase experience beats traditional car makers hands down. No high pressure sales tactics or scams like rust preventer. Nay-sayers also under-rate Tesla's mobile service. Go into the app, create a ticket,…

I love when people say this. Because it tells me that they have never actually driven a sports car before. When tesla owners say "sporty" they mean acceleration. Yes Teslas have mad acceleration. Not disputing that. But thats not a sporty drive. If anything thats more what you would get from a muscle car, which offers pure torque at the cost of basically everything else, which is what Tesla offers. Tesla isn't a spor…