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OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

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Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#31

Sam’s strategy here is to create the sickness (ai) and sell the cure (worldcoin). This is a complete grifting double hedging scam.

Remember when these guys were the young upstarts, disrupting big business and scoring points for the little guy?

How bravely they have transitioned into collecting our eyeball scans and courageously hoarding billions of dollars while the planet withers away. Technology has changed the world.

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you will likely end up with your eyes being scanned by a state and profit-seeking corporations — along with your private data. We need methods to identify who is a real person in the internet of the future, and it should be privacy-preserving and independent of the state.

In a democracy we're not subjugated to the state, the state is subjugated to us. Sure, they can trick people into licking their boots but the power is with the people. You can't rule over the dead and you can't rule without a head.

Have you been away for the past three years?

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#33
I guess if you don't have any real ideas, you scan other people's retinas ("World"-Coin), appropriate other people's creations ("Open"-AI), insert yourself in the process and sell everything back to them.

In the end, you will have created nothing of value. A single Renoir painting is worth more than all this nonsense.

I wonder how the world worked in the 1990s without such luminaries. The answer is: better!

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#35
What I don't understand about this at all, and it's alluded to in the article mentioning black market orbs, how can some decentralized system with Iris scans prevent fraud?

Can't someone just get their hands on one of these orbs and start uploading fake unique ids to their network? Surely it can't be impossible to generate a fake iris scan.

The only way to make sure nobody is abusing this would be to have trusted employees verify you're a real person, in which case why don't just start a non-profit in Switzerland or wherever that just runs a database of scans, what do you need this coin for?

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#36

This future was foretold in 1993: [ https://youtu.be/XoGkp7PPEfI ]

I have to imagine that movie night at Stanford CS consists of Demolition Man, Judge Dredd and Robocop, followed by a hackathon where they try to build imitations of what they saw.

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#37
post #17

What is there to discourage desperate or ill-informed (or both) people from selling their World ID credentials to bad actors?

There are only 8 billion people on earth, so even if every single account were fake that's still a huge improvement over the status quo where someone can spin up 8 billion fake accounts in an hour.

Where in hell can you create 8 billion accounts on any service in an hour!?

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#38
post #11

This kind of headline would normally be torn apart by HN for being somewhat uncharitable for its word choice. But in this case, I'm sure the crypto angle will inspire a knee-jerk negative reaction. Instead, here are a few links for the curious, which explain how the techniques Worldcoin employs may be one of the only viable methods to generate a totally privacy-preserving form of internet native identification and Sy…

methods to generate a totally privacy-preserving form of internet native identification and Sybil resistance I thought Stefan Brands solved this over 20 years ago without scanning people's eyes.

Stefan Brands, Frédéric Légaré: Digital Identity Management based on Digital Credentials. GI Jahrestagung 2002: 120-126

is that a good place to start?

Re: OpenAI CEO raises $115M for crypto company that scans people’s eyeballs

#39

What I find even more dystopian is that there's already a black market for those digital eyeball credentials: > Meanwhile, a black market emerged on Chinese social media and ecommerce sites. Sellers were offering KYC verifications for the World App, which offers wallet and ID services. The credentials often come from developing countries like Cambodia and Kenya, according to social media posts. [1] [1] https://www.co…

I'm sure a16z invested in them. I don't even need to check.
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