From the Ondes Martenot [1] to the Haken Continuum fingerboard [2], this type of wiggling finger motion for vibrato is so intuitive, I wish more discrete controllers proposed it as a per-note pitch bend (which MPE makes possible, but can also be achieved with RPN/NRPNs in MIDI 1.x).
Ableton Push 3
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#32Sounds terrible in the video. If that is the best it can do... :(
it's a sequencer!
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#33Very cool but surely it can't be long before AI can generate top quality music? Of course people will still keep creating, and I'm sure there will be an 'organic' no-AI movement, but the exciting music tech of the next 10 years is going to be in that space in between the two... (Ableton user since version 4)
As with text, the current form of AI (generative AI) will be very good at creating music that sounds good, not good music.
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#34Related, saw this...synth(?) thinger yesterday and I really really want one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivuy9QYLFVY So cool! Not sure where they are in producing it, but it's neat!
That's a sequencer. It doesn't produce sound by itself, but produces notes to be used for other devices to produce sound. You might be better off getting a Circuit Tracks or something (any groovebox) before diving deeper into the hobby, it will be more gratifying than buying individual hardware like that.
They said version 2 will be a midi generator, version 1 a midi controller. I have an OP-1 and OP-Z, looking to go in a different direction.
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#35Very steep prices. Can buy a decent MacBook Air for the cost of the standalone version. Would have been nice to see them keep the old model around with a reduced price for people less well off.
At ~2000 dollars, one can buy mid-high end digital piano made of wood with realistic key action.
https://dcpianos.com/products/kawai-ca48-the-ultimate-piano-...
You can add beats, different sound libraries, and maybe you can add a microphone looper for ~300 dollars extra.
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#36I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…
Musician here, most of us (the ones that aren't also programmers) just have to pay up the arse every time for every thing.
I've been teaching myself keys the last few years and had been planning to one day get myself a big $6k stage keyboard, when I felt that I had sufficiently developed to warrant it.
I have since tried out Zynthian, and my conclusion was that with a pianoteq license and a good controller, I can have way more functionality and sounds and every thing for a small fraction of the price of that Nord.
Your comment is fascinating, because domination of music is one of the pillars of Mac's success. If they're not just neglecting that, but actively screwing with people... They've lost the plot. Like so many giant piles of capital masquerading as a company.
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#37Cool stuff! I used Push 2 for a long time and I really enjoyed the workflow with it. I decided to sell it since most of my music work shifted to using Logic so didn't have much use for it anymore. Until quite recently, I had this scratching itch to rebuy Push 2 and start playing around with it, just to notice that it's sold out everywhere. I had a feeling that they will release Push 3 quite soon, so great to see it out finally. Maybe I need to start using Ableton again!
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#38Very cool but surely it can't be long before AI can generate top quality music? Of course people will still keep creating, and I'm sure there will be an 'organic' no-AI movement, but the exciting music tech of the next 10 years is going to be in that space in between the two... (Ableton user since version 4)
As with text, the current form of AI (generative AI) will be very good at creating music that sounds good, not good music.
I agree, but one lesson I've learned from fifty years of music obsession is that people mostly don't like good music.
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#39Video about the user replaceable parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZT0PyM1gC8
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#40Very cool but surely it can't be long before AI can generate top quality music? Of course people will still keep creating, and I'm sure there will be an 'organic' no-AI movement, but the exciting music tech of the next 10 years is going to be in that space in between the two... (Ableton user since version 4)
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