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Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by joe5150 »

iraldir wrote: post #14

The concept is appealing but the name seems reductory. Sourdough, despite its fame, is but one type of bread. Seing that you had another book called the bread code I went to check that out but it's marked deprecated by this one. So is this a case of an ill-fitting name that does not do justice to the content, or is the content just limited to sourdough as the end-all of bread making? I'm personally not found of the s…

"Sourdough" is a spectrum of breads resulting from various natural and/or long fermentation techniques. Ciabatta is usually made from a partially natural fermentation (biga or poolish) and baguette made this way is also popular.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by andreasscherman »

frsandstone wrote: post #26

Have you considered making a standalone tool to take input variables and generate custom instructions? Your introduction suggests that you know people's input variables (type of flour, environment, other ingredients, etc) have a heavy influence on the end product. It might be easier to generate custom instructions rather than generate content for every possible combination.

Here’s a declarative sourdough ”recipe” generator: https://breadfriend.com

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by lapetitejort »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #16

As an occasional amateur baker with a five year old starter in the fridge and lots of hard learned lessons (aka. tasty failures), this looks like a well researched but probably slightly intimidating book on the subject. I started out like many by watching some Youtube movies. Except I did it a few years before Covid. So, slightly before it got really hip to do it. Some things that I've learned over the years (with th…

> - The fridge is your best friend.

Building on this, make more than one loaf and keep it in the fridge until ready. For some reason I would make two loaves and bake them the same day. Then it was a rush to eat them before they lost their tastiness. Now I make two loaves and take my sweet time eating them. Making two loaves is only marginally more labor than one loaf.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by aleksiy123 »

darknavi wrote: post #10

I love the idea of "compiling" a book. Do people do this with music? I really like the idea of programmatically making music and compiling it.

Funnily enough thats the original usage or common definition of "compile".

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/compilin...

Here it's really a two pass compiling. One by human and one by the machine.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by projektfu »

junon wrote: post #3

I thought this was going to be yet another javascript frontend framework with yet another less than descriptive name, but lo and behold this is actually about sourdough. Neat! EDIT: Appears the author has one for Pizza Dough[0]. Gotta try that one out as it's more applicable to me than sourdough. [0] https://github.com/hendricius/pizza-dough

I was wondering the same thing, and if there was some way that you needed to hand bits of the framework to other people to enable them to use it.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by mpsprd »

This book got me into making my own bread, thank you hendricius!

Toughts I didn't take the time to put in an mr:

-The text is dense like a fruitcake. A bit of air would go a long way to make it more digestible. Sometimes long explanations on progressions are mixed in with key information, and it makes it hard to follow.

-I forget if I compiled it or used the pdf but by memory it was the default latex font, which makes the text look like a paper.

-Starter care and setup was the hardest for me to parse. Having bullets for key concepts would really help. The diagram helps but still has some ambiguity.

Even my grandma, impressed by my beautiful bread, adopted your technique :)

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by soperj »

Yeroc wrote: post #24
hendricius wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The current repo combines most of my experience from the past years into one single framework that you can use as basis for other recipes.

Is there any plan to introduce some simplifications to the processes using things like a bread machine to handle automating the rise and kneading of the bread doughs?

As someone who bakes bread and other doughy items weekly and has for over a decade, bread machines are more work than making by hand and make bread that sucks. If you use less yeast, and let it slow rise there's no kneeding involved and it tastes way better.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Post by soperj »

crispyambulance wrote: post #30
iraldir wrote: post #14

The concept is appealing but the name seems reductory. Sourdough, despite its fame, is but one type of bread. Seing that you had another book called the bread code I went to check that out but it's marked deprecated by this one. So is this a case of an ill-fitting name that does not do justice to the content, or is the content just limited to sourdough as the end-all of bread making? I'm personally not found of the s…

Sourdough is many types of bread. The only thing in common is that the leavening agent is natural rather than commercial yeast. You can have sourdough that isn't "sour", in fact, it's typically not sour. Ciabatta and baguettes are frequently made with natural levain (sourdough). I think that the sour taste reputation comes from particular styles like "San Francisco sourdough" and the fact that many folks over-do it w…

Yep, it's actually more difficult to get the sour flavor than it is to not get it.
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