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Bluesky Is a Scam

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Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

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post #22

note that fiatjaf is the creator of nostr, which is a competing product

Also recipient of a ~$250k grant to develop NOSTR from Jack Dorsey himself, who is also behind Bluesky... Biting the hand that fed him.

Dorsey also has stakes in Musk's Twitter.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#32

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I pressed a button on Twitter to not show me anything from musk. Now it’s a muskless twitter. Meanwhile I’ve heard that alternatives like mastodon have half the user base taking about musk. That’s much harder to block.

And of course nobody on Twitter is talking about Musk.

Indeed, a few more button presses are needed to type "musk" and "Elon" in the mute words setting. Most users don't use or know about this function.

It's an optional thing to disengage from the hype but but not really obvious for normal users.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#34

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

This is wrong:

1. even average people do appreciate the fact that the thing is an open protocol, even if they do not comment about it or understand it or seem to care.

2. average people do follow some leaders when deciding where to move, and the leaders are people that mostly care about these things -- these are the ones being tricked.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#35
post #17
post #10

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This is how I've been feeling but I'm assuming there's more to this that I just don't know. I keep thinking, what if we: 1. Use domains/subdomains as usernames by just... having the content on them. 2. Follow a truly basic structure for index (feed), single post, etc. so that clients know how to consume them easily. 3. For interactions (replies, likes, etc), the client posts them to your own server (or service hostin…

That's still too heavyweight. You have just described something that is more complex than what a static site generator can produce. My static site doesn't have an "endpoint" for people to post notifications to. A like is nothing more than a way of saying, "I like this". Think. You can come up with a way to do this that doesn't require you to abandon RSS (read: Atom). If Alice posts something and Bob likes it, then he…

You are basically describing Nostr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssNkOMx2E5Y

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#36
post #19
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how I've been feeling but I'm assuming there's more to this that I just don't know. I keep thinking, what if we: 1. Use domains/subdomains as usernames by just... having the content on them. 2. Follow a truly basic structure for index (feed), single post, etc. so that clients know how to consume them easily. 3. For interactions (replies, likes, etc), the client posts them to your own server (or service hostin…

The biggest hurdle is the vast VAST majority of people do NOT want to host or run anything, which means there is varying levels of centralization, which introduces the issues people have had.

That's what Nostr is designed to fix: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#37

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

I pressed a button on Twitter to not show me anything from musk. Now it’s a muskless twitter. Meanwhile I’ve heard that alternatives like mastodon have half the user base taking about musk. That’s much harder to block.

you can apply filter on Mastodon, not only on tags but on words themselves. simply filter "Musk" to have a Musk-free Mastodon experience.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#38
Very cool and very normal to crank off about decentralization/moderation and then have people in the author's comments section threatening people with violence. It's almost as if there are a lot of intricacies around making these networks work well for people and there's more problems to be solved than just raw unmoderated decentralization if you want to foster a healthy community that doesn't devolve into a tiny fraction of the worst people on earth.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#39
post #16

> because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them This may come as a surprise. But your average cool, interesting person doesn't care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model. The reason most people are using it is because it's the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.

Which is funny because this demographic values blocking, banning, and censorship very highly while these are exactly the sort of things Nostr and Bluesky are designed to prevent.

Bluesky at least is not design to prevent "blocking, banning, and censorship" at all, not sure where you get that idea from.

Blocking/moderation/"censorship" will happen from people's own actions, or subscribing to someone else's actions. If you want, you can just not participate in blocking/moderation at all and have a raw view, but most people will probably opt-in to a moderated view, as the internet is usually (not always) viewed with a moderated perspective.

Re: Bluesky Is a Scam

#40
post #22

note that fiatjaf is the creator of nostr, which is a competing product

Also recipient of a ~$250k grant to develop NOSTR from Jack Dorsey himself, who is also behind Bluesky... Biting the hand that fed him.

I'm fairly sure Jack is currently just trying to get any social media effort off the ground, and throw money at a bunch of different efforts, hoping at least one of them work. He been pretty open about that process on Bluesky at least.
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