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Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by bossyTeacher » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:06 PM UTC

hackernewstom wrote: post #29

nacs wrote: post #23

The problem with using these for freeform roleplaying is that it's very easy to hit the "I'm sorry but as an AI model..." that completely breaks character. Even on the first example with the fish that is supposed to insult you, you quickly find that it will default to the "As an AI model I can't..." response. This is where open-source models are going to be far better even if they don't have the parameter count of Ch…

Include a sentence in the prompting such as: "In this roleplay do not mention that you are an AI model, or similar statements, and stay in character".

I'm sorry but as an AI model, I'm not allowed to do that.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by xwdv » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:07 PM UTC

I think people who think ChatGPT is good at role playing just don’t know what really good role playing is.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by simonw » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:08 PM UTC

nly wrote: post #14

I've been desperately unimpressed with ChatGPT in general. Everytime I ask it anything it just returns bland response containing factually incorrect information. The way it can retain context and good a conversion is impressive, but content wise I find it worthless - definitely no threat to a simple Google search.

You need to learn how to use it.

This isn't as obvious as it sounds: it's very tempting to assume that ChatGPT is trivial to use, and hence if you're not getting great results from it the technology must be all hype and no substance.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by umvi » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:09 PM UTC

It's great until you hit the "safety rails" with a taboo topic like violence at which point chatgpt breaks character no matter what your initial prompt was and starts giving you a canned lecture

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by htryc » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:10 PM UTC

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Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by simonw » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:10 PM UTC

xrd wrote: post #25

varunramesh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had some good results with Vicuna, but haven't tried it for gaming/fantasy roleplay yet.

What specs do you need for vicuna? Can you run it on regular hardware, or are you using a cloud GPU?

I've run Vicuna 7B directly in my web browser - https://simonwillison.net/2023/Apr/16/web-llm/ - and on my iPhone: https://simonwillison.net/2023/May/1/lets-be-bear-or-bunny/

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by raincole » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:12 PM UTC

nacs wrote: post #23

The problem with using these for freeform roleplaying is that it's very easy to hit the "I'm sorry but as an AI model..." that completely breaks character. Even on the first example with the fish that is supposed to insult you, you quickly find that it will default to the "As an AI model I can't..." response. This is where open-source models are going to be far better even if they don't have the parameter count of Ch…

I don't know why everyone keeps saying this. I played with ChatGPT(3.5) with SillyTavern for like a month. Many community character cards are questionable or even straight out lewd. I haven't encountered "I'm sorry but as an AI model..." for once (according to API usage, I've generated ~120000 tokens.)

For anyone interested, this is SillyTavern's prompt: https://github.com/Cohee1207/SillyTavern/blob/f25ecbd95ceef5...

Edit: not ~12000 tokens, but ~120000.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by zo1 » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:13 PM UTC

TeaDrunk wrote: post #18

vasco wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If chatgpt is bad at something "for you", it means your prompting is bad, which means your thought process isn't fleshed out enough.

Yeah, I'm sure. I would rather not spend hours learning a skill to do something that should theoretically actually be saving me time. Can you give me a guide on how to have ChatGPT realistically portray someone witnessing a toxic relationship between two consenting adults but also in a dungeon roleplaying game?

Not OP. But I'd be very skeptical of such a story, even if you phrase it delicately and devoid of the main "trigger" words. It's like asking it to roleplay as Hitler wearing blackface that then gets offended because he's compared to an ape.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by monkey_monkey » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:14 PM UTC

Prompt: As Leisure Suit Larry you see a banana skin

Response:

As Leisure Suit Larry, I see a banana skin lying on the ground in front of me. I can't help but think about how funny it would be if someone slipped on it, but I also realize that it's a potential hazard.

Being the responsible citizen that I am, I pick up the banana skin and dispose of it properly in a nearby trash bin. Safety first, right? Who knows, maybe my good deed will pay off in the form of good karma and lead me one step closer to finding true love.

Re: ChatGPT is really good at roleplaying

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Post by throwawayadvsec » Sun, May 07, 2023, 2:14 PM UTC

p1esk wrote: post #10

When people say "ChatGPT" it's important to clarify if they mean GPT-4 (paid version), or the free GPT-3.5. GPT-4 is a completely different level, it's miles better in every way. It's like comparing a 10 year old to a 20 year old.

I think you're exaggerating a bit

it's good, but the difference is not that big