An Internet Canvas • Hacker News Board

Re: An Internet Canvas

#31

Post by armitron » Sat, May 06, 2023, 1:47 PM UTC

xhfloz wrote: post #4

Oy. Author of this. Surprised to see this here. If you’re curious, recently launched beta [1] and also wrote up a “why” to the project [2]. Also: a StumbleUpon-like explore experience of pages created using mmm.page [3]. [1] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1653740562648821760?s=46 [2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1631746024120221698?s=46 [3] https://explore.mmm.page

Sorry not gonna pay 5$ a month for what should essentially be free and open part of the web (instead of VC-funded and monetized).

Re: An Internet Canvas

#32

Post by xhfloz » Sat, May 06, 2023, 3:58 PM UTC

armitron wrote: post #31

xhfloz wrote: post #4

Oy. Author of this. Surprised to see this here. If you’re curious, recently launched beta [1] and also wrote up a “why” to the project [2]. Also: a StumbleUpon-like explore experience of pages created using mmm.page [3]. [1] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1653740562648821760?s=46 [2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1631746024120221698?s=46 [3] https://explore.mmm.page

Sorry not gonna pay 5$ a month for what should essentially be free and open part of the web (instead of VC-funded and monetized).

Not VC-funded :)

As to charging an (optional) paid plan, unfortunately, I have been bootstrapping this full-time the past few years, and because I can’t till my own land anymore, have to find the least terrible way of exchanging labor for money, such that I can pay for food and bills.

That being said, there is a free tier for this very reason, as I remember all the free services that got me started initially. Hoping to make this tier more generous once the project is profitable.

Let me know if you have other ideas. If I can (a) pay for business costs (accounting, APIs, hosting, etc), (b) pay for my bills, (c) attain a and b w/ incentives that align with my users and the principles of the project — I am all ears.

Re: An Internet Canvas

#33

Post by xhfloz » Sat, May 06, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

rpgbr wrote: post #29

I block Google web fonts, and it seems this breaks badly mmm.pages. I wonder why…? Also, why does mmm.page loads ~160 Google web fonts?

Unfortunate compromise of not paying for font licenses — and google fonts is the most extensive collection of free fonts.

As for fonts — it’s unideal! Those initial fonts are actually just the glyphs subset of fonts so I can display their names in the font picker. It’s already somewhat cut down by separating the fonts into basic and all, as well as delaying the load a few seconds after initial load, but still a lot to fix up there.

Re: An Internet Canvas

#34

Post by xhfloz » Sat, May 06, 2023, 4:13 PM UTC

cenan wrote: post #27

The homepage is very slow for me and causes my CPU fan to spin like crazy.

It could do with a heavy perf pass tbh. Haven’t had time juggling all the feature work, but it’s planned for 1.0. Mind letting me know what machine you’re on?

Re: An Internet Canvas

#35

Post by throw74774 » Sat, May 06, 2023, 6:07 PM UTC

armitron wrote: post #31

xhfloz wrote: post #4

Oy. Author of this. Surprised to see this here. If you’re curious, recently launched beta [1] and also wrote up a “why” to the project [2]. Also: a StumbleUpon-like explore experience of pages created using mmm.page [3]. [1] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1653740562648821760?s=46 [2] https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1631746024120221698?s=46 [3] https://explore.mmm.page

Sorry not gonna pay 5$ a month for what should essentially be free and open part of the web (instead of VC-funded and monetized).

I like the idea that parts of the ‘should’ be free and open, but I’m curious how the people who work on these things would have time to do so if not paid.

Are you suggesting that they should be paid by the government - I.e. out of taxes?

Or are you simply saying if it’s part of the web, people should work on it for free - basically like open source? Even in this case, I don’t see where the money for infrastructure and power comes from.

Maybe I’m missing another alternative.