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Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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Controversial opinion: Public transport should be publicly owned.

Even more: Public transport is a public good which should be funded by fossil fuel taxes and provided to users without cost.

Why is it a public good? It only benefits the individuals who are travelling. If I take the train to visit my sister, I don't see how that is in the public's interest.

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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Well, the problem is, especially in Germany. If someone is a "Beamter" which can't be fired, has low income, there's no motivation to make a good job. It took me 3 months to get a Bescheinigung über Daueraufenthalt" . In theory, yes, transportation as well as communication should be owned by the public and available for free. A state that has 100 billion for buying weapons can afford that too. Buy Germany has deterio…

I won't dispute that there is corruption and that there are still Nazis and right wing forces around - especially if you look in certain german states. But if I am completely honest lots of government agencies and the people working there are entirely complacent with the state of bureaucracy because they don't feel like they can or need to change this sorry state of affairs. I had to wait more than two months to get…

> Why can I not do that online with my ID? > Why is she even typing it at all

Social function of work. If you do it yourself, what will she do?

If you come up with a solution freeing hundreds of people doing some monkey jobs some in Germany will consider this evil, since people are losing their means of earning salary. This is more difficult with the officials, since they have guaranteed employment.

[Edit: typo]

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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The problem is that in Germany, the city-to-city trains that can be used with this ticket do not have WIFI IIRC. Can anybody confirm this? Traveling time without WIFI is a much higher burden to me than normal traveling time, where I can work on my projects. I actually like working on the train. It is a nice environment. But without that possibility, long train rides are a chore to me. And it will be interesting to se…

With 5G speeds and unlimited data* - do you even need WiFi? Not to mention most companies nowadays have clear policies of (not) connecting to free public wifi's or even working in public spaces where your screen may be visible. * Usually the first 50gb is max speed and then it drops to 25/25 etc - which is still really fast.

> Not to mention most companies nowadays have clear policies of (not) connecting to free public wifi's or even working in public spaces where your screen may be visible.

Why is that? Would a VPN not make it safe against most threat models? I mean assuming you are not working at a place where government actors are trying to target you specifically.

Or can they inject something to force the VPN to disable and hope non-encrypted data gets transmitted?

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more: Public transport is a public good which should be funded by fossil fuel taxes and provided to users without cost.

Why is it a public good? It only benefits the individuals who are travelling. If I take the train to visit my sister, I don't see how that is in the public's interest.

If you take the train and not the car, you cause a lot less externalities.

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

#35
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From my limited experience on the German rails (Amsterdam - Berlin 5/6 times in the last 4 years) the mobile 4G/5G connection was pretty good. Only dropping off when travelling through very remote rural areas. In the Netherlands we have unlimited data subscriptions, I assume Germany has something similar? That should be enough to get some work done in the train :)

Unlimited data here is rare (or too expensive), usually normal people have 5-10gb a month. Still it covers most web and messaged stuff, just don’t watch too much video….

To be a little more precise about the pricing:

O2 Unlimited:

- 32,99€/month for 4G/5G capped at 3mbit with unlimited data

- 42,99€/month for 4G/5G capped at 15mbit with unlimited data

- 62,99€/month for 4G/5G up to 500mbit with with unlimited data

Vodafone:

- 79,99€/month with 4G/5G up to 500mbit with unlimted data

Telekom:

- 84,99€/month with 4G/5G up to 500mbit with unlimited data

1und1:

- 49,99€/month with 4G/5G capped at 10mbit with unlimited data

- 69,99€/month with 4G/5G up to 500mbit with unlimited data

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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post #7

The problem is that in Germany, the city-to-city trains that can be used with this ticket do not have WIFI IIRC. Can anybody confirm this? Traveling time without WIFI is a much higher burden to me than normal traveling time, where I can work on my projects. I actually like working on the train. It is a nice environment. But without that possibility, long train rides are a chore to me. And it will be interesting to se…

From my limited experience on the German rails (Amsterdam - Berlin 5/6 times in the last 4 years) the mobile 4G/5G connection was pretty good. Only dropping off when travelling through very remote rural areas. In the Netherlands we have unlimited data subscriptions, I assume Germany has something similar? That should be enough to get some work done in the train :)

> From my limited experience on the German rails (Amsterdam - Berlin 5/6 times in the last 4 years) the mobile 4G/5G connection was pretty good. Only dropping off when travelling through very remote rural areas.

Not sure what you'd call "very remote rural areas", but when on the main rail lines through Bavaria (Munich-Rosenheim-Salzburg-Vienna and -Rosenheim-Innsbruck-Verona) if you're in the countryside you'll often experience patchy or zero mobile coverage, never mind 4G/5G.

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

#37

Controversial opinion: Public transport should be publicly owned.

It's not really controversial in Germany, and largely the case.

The problems lie elsewhere. IMHO there are two major problems with public transport in Germany. One is underfunding, which causes a lack of reliability, and plenty of lines that are overused. The second is complexity. Each local transport association has its own ticketing system, and they really like to make them complicated. The 49 euro ticket is a step in the right direction here, as it is one ticket for most (unfortunately with a few exceptions...) local public transport.

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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The problem is that in Germany, the city-to-city trains that can be used with this ticket do not have WIFI IIRC. Can anybody confirm this? Traveling time without WIFI is a much higher burden to me than normal traveling time, where I can work on my projects. I actually like working on the train. It is a nice environment. But without that possibility, long train rides are a chore to me. And it will be interesting to se…

Not sure why you get downvoted, lack of wifi in German trains is an issue, unreliable mobile internet coverage is another.

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more: Public transport is a public good which should be funded by fossil fuel taxes and provided to users without cost.

Why is it a public good? It only benefits the individuals who are travelling. If I take the train to visit my sister, I don't see how that is in the public's interest.

Public parks you don't sit in are still public goods; public litter bins are still public goods even if you never have anything to put into them; public roads are still a public good even if you don't own a vehicle.

Likewise, if you want them to be, so is public transport.

Though, here's a question: I don't think I've ever seen planes classified as public transport — is that just my observations being weird, or is that a true distinction? And if genuine, why?

Re: Millions snap up new Germany-wide public transit ticket

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The pyramid scheme grinds to an halt, if it does not. Everything goto join the MLM scheme, or those running the whole affair get a existential crisis.

Central banking and social security are the MLM schemes. Free markets, if we had them, would rebalance that kind of thing.

Sure, but completely unrestricted free markets would also reintroduce slavery etc. to the modern world.

Free markets are great at reducing inefficiencies in a world in which no participant decides to coordinate with other participants for profit. which obviously doesn't work, just like communism doesnt work at societal scales.

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