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Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by foobarbecue »

alpos wrote: post #14
foobarbecue wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The communist / capitalist symmetry is quite something. In communism, the individual doesn't really own anything; the state just lets the individual use things as they see fit. In our late-stage capitalism, the individual doesn't really own anything; the corporation just lets the individual use things as they see fit.

I keep trying to tell the socialists and communists out there that they can totally implement the way they want to live within any democratic capitalist system. Just make a corporation which all of your people are members of, give voting powers to all members to decide what stuff the corporation buys as well as how members get to use the things. Can even go as far as setting up an HOA or a town where the company is t…

Yes, communes are a thing. Shrug.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by jimnotgym »

fowtowmowcow wrote: post #24
_yb2s wrote: post #22

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I want it to be simple and well tested so it doesn’t need updates, just like the physical parts of the car.

Even with the best programmers and safety measures in the world NASA still had to update the space shuttle. https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/flyout/flyfeature...

That's OK, they can plug in and update during the annual service.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by verdverm »

schaefer wrote: post #13
verdverm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not extrapolate a trend into a permanent change. Trends have a way of being fads or reversed

Are you calling streaming media like Spotify a trend? What was the last time you bought an album?

That is different from a car.

With Spotify, I get access to all the music and don't lose it when the cd gets scratched.

What the auto companies are doing is gating the existing functionality behind subscriptions. These companies are largely commodities at this point and are trying out rent seeking. I don't think many consumers will accept this long term. The proverbial camel's back will break because it is user hostile

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Post by verdverm »

2rsf wrote: post #17
GiorgioG wrote: post #2

It won’t be my interest in saving the planet that stops me from buying cars, it’ll be bullshit like this. I want to own my car. I don’t want it to be connected (beyond acting as a hotspot) to the internet or to some central service. Have we not learned anything?

Don't you want software upgrades? cars are loaded with technology, some of it is for "fun" like navigation of music services, but a lot if for safety reasons and this requires frequent updating.

I paid for Windows once and continue to get updates. Same for my eInk tablet. Why should my car not be the same?

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by horsawlarway »

I want to see this legislated out of existence.

To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No.

This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment to exceed the upfront cost. The average length of new car ownership in the US is between 8 and 11 years (varies by source and accounting methods).

You will be charged fucking $6000 dollars for a item that is already present in your car, you just don't have the damn key.

RENT FUCKING SEEKING.

Even on cars that cost 100k, Mercedes just gets to pocket an extra 5% of the sale price here at literally no cost or effort.

Piss on these car manufacturers.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by p0w3n3d »

Coming up next year - your macbook might run twice as fast if you pay additional 100$ per month.

In my opinion such behaviour should be treated as a direct consumer rights' violation, under accusation of malicious intentional degradation of product sold to customer. When hardware (engine/cpu) is created it has its by-design limits and there is no possibility to increase those limits by software, i.e. this is not increasing, but decreasing the capabilities to extort additional premium

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by userbinator »

The owner of a 516-horsepower Mercedes EQS 580 needn’t worry that a neighbor’s EQS 450 might go faster

It's worth noting that passenger car power ratings have always been "peak" ratings ever since they stopped using the same engines in cars and trucks. 500HP is around what a semitruck engine is rated at, but the difference is that the latter can maintain that power output for more than a few seconds, even continuously, and the resulting differences in construction are massive. Look at aircraft piston engines for an even more extreme example.

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