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We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by esharte »

emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

If you lived in the UK, supported Tottenham and wanted to watch all their games in the 2021/22 season you had to:

Subscribe to Sky Sports (around £50-60 a month) for the Premier League games.

Subscribe to BT Sports (30 a month) for the Saturday early kick off Premier League games and the Europa Conference League games.

Subscribe to Amazon Prime for the 3 random weeks when they are showing the Premier League games instead of Sky.

Subscribe to Premier Sports (£12 a month) to see a Europa Conference League 2 legged qualifier.

And even then you couldn't see all the games legally in the UK because of the 3pm Saturday black out. You are forced to find a stream from another country where they are broadcasting the game.

Then when you are subscriped you get wall to wall gambling adverts during half time. For every other product you subscribe to, it is to avoid ads, but not television.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by TulliusCicero »

faeriechangling wrote: post #7
NullPrefix wrote: post #3

> Some of the obvious risk factors include: > Is the email address a company domain or a consumer email like Gmail? Do you actually expect people to use their work email for personal purposes?

I absolutely expect people to use their work email for personal purposes.

The problem is that the word "expect" in English is overloaded: sometimes it basically just means to predict, other times it implies what you think someone should be doing.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by whoisstan »

emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

100% agree. I watch Bundesliga, with sky Germany over VPN you could watch all games 2/3 years ago, not some of them are on DAZN which also charges. ChampionsLeague used to be sky as well, not its prime. Not to mention English, Spanish and Italian league. I watch 4-5h soccer a week throughout the league based in time and interest. Without pirating I would have to pay several hundreds of dollars. Ridiculous.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by emacdona »

esharte wrote: post #31
emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

If you lived in the UK, supported Tottenham and wanted to watch all their games in the 2021/22 season you had to: Subscribe to Sky Sports (around £50-60 a month) for the Premier League games. Subscribe to BT Sports (30 a month) for the Saturday early kick off Premier League games and the Europa Conference League games. Subscribe to Amazon Prime for the 3 random weeks when they are showing the Premier League games ins…

Infuriating. I was pissed because I couldn't easily watch "all games in a given league". You only want to watch your team, and you STILL have to pay for four services to get "most" of the games.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by lostcolony »

matt3210 wrote: post #19

You didn’t save anything unless you can show reasonable evidence that they paid properly as a result of your efforts. It’s likely that at least some people never would have paid for the content even if they can’t pirate it.

Didn't read the article didja? Or even click and read the full title?

The $750k figure is the amount of Mux's services they provided in 2021, that were (claimed to be) pirate streams, and were not paid. By taking steps to catch and remove pirates, they are reducing the number of unpaid invoices they have.

Their actual costs are less, yes (in that how much they invoice != their actual costs), but it's reasonable to say saved themselves $750k of their services.

It had nothing to do with converting pirates to paying customers. It had to do with preventing pirates from incurring infrastructure costs for them/making use of their services without paying.

Re: We glued together content moderation to stop soccer pirates

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Post by nordsieck »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23
emacdona wrote: post #8

Sigh... f*ck sports leagues/governing bodies. The reason some honest people pirate streams for sporting events is because they make it so annoying to pay for them. Some examples... I live in the US. I briefly took an interest in the EPL. If I wanted to watch all EPL games (or have the option of watching any particular EPL game), I'd have to subscribe to Peacock _and_ Fubo -- and I'm still not sure that gets me all ga…

There's a common polycule meme where every new member pays for a different digital media subscription service and it's shared between everyone. If you get together with a few friends it's possible to split the costs of all these services. If you're sufficiently tech savvy, each person can run a VPN from their home so it doesn't look suspicious from the streaming service's end. Here's a video showing how to do this wi…

> I wish it was possible for me to lend all of my Steam games when I'm not using them.

I suspect there are so many great deals on Steam specifically because it's not possible.

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