better https://www.divescotty.com/underwater-blog/boat-side-starboa...
Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
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Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#32A big part of the training material for boating license is about learning things that people are not using in practice, which makes less time / mental power to learn what is really important to survive and avoid crash (what's really important).
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because left and right are ambiguous - are you talking about MY left or the boat’s left? Having unambiguous names let’s us differentiate and avoid confusion. It might be hard to grok the need for this if you’ve never been in a tight spot while sailing or operating a watercraft with a crew - but having this distinction has probably saved thousands of bad incidents from happening.
Yes but why would you ever be talking about your left? Use the definite article, THE left, and it should be clear by convention for the sailors. I think it's just historical.
You hear a cry “man overboard on the left!”
Where is the overboard person? Are they to your left, the ships left, or the left of the person shouting?
If the cry is instead “man overboard on the port side!” there is no question.
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#34Because you need to differentiate between "my left when facing the boat" and "my left when on the boat facing forward" or really, left from any other perspective. And any time there's a multi-word phrase like that that gets used a lot over many years, it gets shortened.
Starboard => Means "steering side of the boat" (b/c the oar was on the right side due to sailors mostly being right handed)
Port => The side that faces the port when docked
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#35The only was I can remember which is port and starboard is by thinking about boarding an airplane. The steps/tunnel are always docked on the 'port' side, just as boats always dock on the port side. The cockpit/bow is always on your left when you board.
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#36Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because left and right are ambiguous - are you talking about MY left or the boat’s left? Having unambiguous names let’s us differentiate and avoid confusion. It might be hard to grok the need for this if you’ve never been in a tight spot while sailing or operating a watercraft with a crew - but having this distinction has probably saved thousands of bad incidents from happening.
Yes but why would you ever be talking about your left? Use the definite article, THE left, and it should be clear by convention for the sailors. I think it's just historical.
I think starboard and port make more sense here because they only describe parts of the ship, so the meaning of the terms is completely unambiguous.
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because left and right are ambiguous - are you talking about MY left or the boat’s left? Having unambiguous names let’s us differentiate and avoid confusion. It might be hard to grok the need for this if you’ve never been in a tight spot while sailing or operating a watercraft with a crew - but having this distinction has probably saved thousands of bad incidents from happening.
Yes but why would you ever be talking about your left? Use the definite article, THE left, and it should be clear by convention for the sailors. I think it's just historical.
A crew (any kind of crew) requires exceedingly clear communication. "Ship left" and "ship right" could work, but what if the environment is noisy and you're not sure if the first word was "ship" or something else? Domain-specific, unique terms are fantastic tools for crews.
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#39I understand that the terms are mostly unambiguous, but I always wonder how these get defined in edge cases. For example ferries, at least where I live, alternate the direction of travel as they go back and forth. There isn't a fixed "bow" or "stern" from which to define port and starboard.
Re: Why do ships use “port” and “starboard” instead of “left” and “right?”
#40The only was I can remember which is port and starboard is by thinking about boarding an airplane. The steps/tunnel are always docked on the 'port' side, just as boats always dock on the port side. The cockpit/bow is always on your left when you board.