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do you know why they are offering half instead of double? because they can the game has changed
well they might as well be heading into an extinction level event. They might take their final crumbles before it all goes to 0
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Contractors are well paid (per day) when they are in a "short term consulting role" for a company that doesn't need a permanent position. When the role is "a body for the shop when the workload is high enough", the contractor is the least valued class in the team, paid less with less benefits, and first to cut when load or funding drops.
It's more complicated than that. Many companies that aren't mainly in tech end up having strange ideas of what competitive pay is for FTEs, thanks to HR, but managers can spend capital project money with far fewer limitations. This leads to places where the contractors are very well paid, but there's no way to convert them to FTEs, just because the offers are never high enough. Add to that the fact that raises in tho…
Why would you take a contract position for half the money? That defeats the point. Though I guess if you work in the US there’s not much difference in the first place because firing even permanent employees seems really easy.
> There’s no way I want to go back ... making half the amount. IMHO, if a company lays off an employee, and then wants them back as a contractor/consultant, the tasteful offer is that the money doubles , not halves .
1. Most companies aren’t in the business of making tasteful offers. 2. Why would they double this person’s pay? This person no longer has a job and needs one!
I'd see this more at a company like Twitter than Microsoft, but trying to refill a role, especially with the same people after once firing them is often a sign that they fucked up and let go people that were critically needed.
That's the kind of conditions where the person comes back as a contractor, but paid significantly more.
This also happens a lot in small companies with stupid managers.
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well they might as well be heading into an extinction level event. They might take their final crumbles before it all goes to 0
Can you elaborate on this? What event are you referring to?
> There’s no way I want to go back ... making half the amount. IMHO, if a company lays off an employee, and then wants them back as a contractor/consultant, the tasteful offer is that the money doubles , not halves .
1. Most companies aren’t in the business of making tasteful offers. 2. Why would they double this person’s pay? This person no longer has a job and needs one!
I worked in a factory for a few months as a temp and a bunch of my co-workers that had been with the company for years had this exact thing happen to them, a few years after the 2008 crash. I believe it was a little different in that people were asked to take the change in their classification or leave, rather than being let go and then hired back separately. I know engineers that work outside of software that had to…
> end up with that "soft-ish" landing the Fed was talking about That narrative died months ago. At this point the odds of a recession are much higher than a 'soft-landing'.
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Contractors are well paid (per day) when they are in a "short term consulting role" for a company that doesn't need a permanent position. When the role is "a body for the shop when the workload is high enough", the contractor is the least valued class in the team, paid less with less benefits, and first to cut when load or funding drops.
It's more complicated than that. Many companies that aren't mainly in tech end up having strange ideas of what competitive pay is for FTEs, thanks to HR, but managers can spend capital project money with far fewer limitations. This leads to places where the contractors are very well paid, but there's no way to convert them to FTEs, just because the offers are never high enough. Add to that the fact that raises in tho…
I was a contractor once and while I sat at a tiny desk in a hallway and wasn’t invited to the ice cream parties I know I was paid better than all the FTE as they tried recruiting me but their offers were far less that my hourly rate.