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Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by jzb »

SassyGrapefruit wrote: post #22

I don't know man. I am employed but I still get 64 recruiting emails a day. Seems like business as usual. FWIW I have never had luck with applications. The last time I was unemployed I sent out 10 or 15 and heard nothing. I reached out to a recruiter and was drowning in interviews within a week. As for the other side, I do hiring on my team. We posted a Senior SRE on linkedin and got 30 applicants within a week. That…

I keep seeing things that suggest recruiters are keeping active to look active but not much going on beyond that. That is, people may be getting hit up for things that aren't going to pan out for any of the people they touch - they just want full schedules.

Or you may be super in demand, too!

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by y-curious »

Plasmoid wrote: post #15

I was looking at some internal metrics for applications. We were seeing ~1000 applications per week for SWE roles and around 500/week for senior SWE. I'm not sure how many are genuine compared to scatter-shot applications but it means that a lot of recruiters have to dig through huge piles of resumes and odds are good that you're just being missed in the volume. There are much fewer resumes for specialized/higher lev…

I am <1 YOE as an SWE (had other technical roles prior) and I, too, have seen a huge uptick of recruiter emails since the beginning of March.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by hbcondo714 »

moosedev wrote: post #6

Not just you. I would guess, optimistically, I’m averaging a 5% conversion rate of applications to recruiter chats/“stage 0 interviews”. That is, ~95% of applications yield silence or a generic email rejection without any human contact. ~15 YOE, FAANG experience, usually only applying to roles I feel I’m at least a halfway good fit for (i.e. not a complete scattergun approach). I’m (financially) fine for now, which i…

> A few of the recruiters I have talked with have mentioned that they’re getting hundreds of applications within hours of a posting going live

I think a good example of this is on LinkedIn. I see "Over 200 Applicants" and "See how you compare to 421 applicants" on their Easy Apply job postings.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by TylerE »

SassyGrapefruit wrote: post #22

I don't know man. I am employed but I still get 64 recruiting emails a day. Seems like business as usual. FWIW I have never had luck with applications. The last time I was unemployed I sent out 10 or 15 and heard nothing. I reached out to a recruiter and was drowning in interviews within a week. As for the other side, I do hiring on my team. We posted a Senior SRE on linkedin and got 30 applicants within a week. That…

Feels like there's just a chasm... they want CHEAP people, not GOOD people.

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by etimberg »

goodpoint wrote: post #27
oh_sigh wrote: post #9

150 resumes sounds like you're just shotgunning them out there willy nilly. Maybe take a more nuanced approach and work your network a little bit. Your network could even just be people you've worked with in the past who respect you and enjoyed working with you, doesn't need to be people you actively keep up with.

"willy nilly"??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_nilly

"Willy nilly is an idiom that means "haphazardly" or "spontaneously"."

Re: Ask HN: Is the job market brutal? or is it just me?

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Post by amonith »

mv4 wrote: post #16

It is brutal. Even with 20+ YoE and a couple of FAANGs on the resume, the response rate is 1/10th of what I saw a couple of years ago.

Tbh it was always not that great with "too much experience". I feel that the best response rate is on that sweet spot of around ~5 years, probably because you already know enough but are still relatively cheap for the employer.

I imagine that with that much exp and FAANGs on resume you are still negotiating FAANG salary, which are kind of the outliers of the industry.

Idk, the dev market in my country (Poland) stills seems to be in a good shape, but we're earning pennies comparatively (50k USD would be a top 1% senior position) so not sure if that's actually better. I might get a stable salary and lots of companies to choose from if there's anything I don't like, but you can beat my earnings with a 3-month side gig, so... :D

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