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The last three rows on the table at the end of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS imply V9.2 does not support AMD CPUs, and that support only comes with V9.2-1. That implies the version released here is Intel only - is that true? If so, why would that be?
The last three rows on the table at the end of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS imply V9.2 does not support AMD CPUs, and that support only comes with V9.2-1. That implies the version released here is Intel only - is that true? If so, why would that be?
The screenshot on the linked blog post shows V9.2 and E9.2-1 (Field Test, i.e. prerelease) available for download.
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This one: https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/agreemen... "Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the payment of any applicable license fee, VSI grants You a non-exclusive, non-transferable revocable license to Use (as defined below) the Software in object code form as provided to you by VSI, solely for Non-commercial purposes." "Non-commercial means not used for commercial advantag…
Not for "indirect monetary compensation" is vague, and worth looking at closely. Say you run curious-os.blog and take patreon or some other monetary payment, and you write a post based on your experience running this OS. Are the lawyers going to come after you?
Finally an OS that uses all four protection rings of x86 CPUs? :)
Quite nice BASIC and Pascal compilers, and BLISS at least has facilities for proper bounds checking.
It's certainly a different take on operating systems... will be interesting to see if there is any interest now that you can spin it up as a VM on your KVM server box. Can't figure out the RAM needed to run it from the notes I have read, however...
From "VMS Software / Documentation / x86-64 V9.2 Installation Guide" https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvms-x86-64-v92-installa... 1.2.1. Recommended Settings for Virtual Machines VSI recommends that your OpenVMS virtual machine be configured with: Memory Minimum of 6 GB Minimum Number of CPUs: 2
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I feel your pain. Used to run IT at Birkbeck College and they were huge on VMS. IIRC the University of London library system at the time, Libertas, depended on VAX. As a UNIX person it was wild. But credit where it is due: that thing was bulletproof.
> that thing was bulletproof. I remember back when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, there was a shop running VMS for (I think) some financial institution that left a skeleton crew onsite to keep things running. They had 3 sites (if I recall) across the US, but for whatever reason they needed all 3 up as long as possible, so those guys manned the generator. They were doing live blog updates, which was pretty wild at…
“We’re on the 10th and 11th floor of a corporate high rise on Poydras Ave., right near St. Charles. We have generators and tons of food and water. It is five of us total. I am not sure how the Internet connection will be affected. I have a camera and my gun. Sustained winds are 175, gusts to 215. The real danger is not the wind, it’s the storm surge the wind will be pushing into the city from the Gulf through the lake. The city might never recover. Honestly, this thing could be biblical”
Starts on August 28th [1]
From Baseline magazine summary [2]:
That online diary, or weblog, entry was posted about noon on Sunday, Aug. 28, by Michael Barnett, a former Green Beret and business consultant to Intercosmos Media Group, the parent company of domain registrar DirectNIC and Zipa.com, a Web host. Barnett, a lifelong friend of Intercosmos chief executive officer Sigmund Solares, was holed up with his girlfriend Crystal Coleman in a data center in New Orleans’ Central Business District, an alleged safe place to ride out Hurricane Katrina. Solares hired Barnett as crisis manager for the storm.
[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20050917030139/https://interdict...
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20060326000654/http://interdicto...
[2] https://www.baselinemag.com/business-intelligence/Diary-of-D...
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How sad. VMS originally ran on a VAX 11/780 which maxed out at 8 MB. Now it apparently needs almost 1000 times more memory.
VMS in 2020 is a vastly different beast than the VMS that ran on 11/780
I used VMS on various types of VAXen in the mid 1980s and I liked it because of its systematically designed command line interpreter. A Unix shell is a complete mess compared to that.
I switched to Unix in the late 1980s and to Linux later and found it technically more powerful. Lightweight processes, pipes and many more. Is there anything in OpenVMS that Linux is fundamentally lacking?
What's the license? Couldn't find this in the article.
This one: https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/agreemen... "Subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and the payment of any applicable license fee, VSI grants You a non-exclusive, non-transferable revocable license to Use (as defined below) the Software in object code form as provided to you by VSI, solely for Non-commercial purposes." "Non-commercial means not used for commercial advantag…
Just a thought. Personally I am not interested spending my hobby time on closed source. If I want to understand something I want to be able to read the source. Not that I do it every day or even every week. But having the option is valuable.
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I had the exact opposite reaction. I grew up on UNIX. BSD, Solaris, HP-UX, then later Linux; though always as a user. The first time I ran into VMS, I fell in love. It was just such a different experience. Granted that OpenVMS has been trapped in a bubble, and that using even the latest versions, feels like you've been teleported back to 1990. I'll be really interested to see, now that the platform is much more acces…
I would be surprised if they do to be honest. What possible niche could it fill that a community ...a viable community... could be based on?
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VMS in 2020 is a vastly different beast than the VMS that ran on 11/780
So what what has fundamentally changed? I used VMS on various types of VAXen in the mid 1980s and I liked it because of its systematically designed command line interpreter. A Unix shell is a complete mess compared to that. I switched to Unix in the late 1980s and to Linux later and found it technically more powerful. Lightweight processes, pipes and many more. Is there anything in OpenVMS that Linux is fundamentally…
File versioning. This is bodged on in all xNixes by embedding version numbers into filenames, then writing a multi-tens-of-thousands-of-lines shell scripts to track all the versions, make loads of symlinks so programs can find them if they don't need specific revisions, occasionally add new versions and remap hundreds of links, occasionally prune old libraries, carefully manage umpteen paths to where different libraries are kept... and this is considered normal and nobody sees anything wrong with it, when in fact it's a vast ugly kludge of a hack, now fossilised as package managers and so on.
All because it's a braindead filesystem.