I don't blame them. Were entering a bear market, they have disadvantaged themselves with metaverse (although their hand was forced when ad market was nuked).
It's a hectic market where job seekers and employers are about to get tight.
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#32Meta needs its best engineers to be highly motivated in uncertain times. Otherwise innovation will be harder to come by. All the best engineers I ever worked with so far all favor remote work because it increases code quality, throughput, and happiness. Meta will be disrupted, seeing as whatever Meta tech they’re building isn’t even good enough for their own employees to dogfood for better remote work experience.
The place I work for hasn't fully embraced remote for in house staff, since lockdowns it's now 2 days a month in the office but we have hired an agency to help with an app rebuild. We've got 5-6 people from the agency working from Spain, Hungary, Poland and the UK and they're brilliant. Really knowledgable about our specific niche with loads of experience in related areas. I have no idea how we'd find people this good in the UK let alone ones tied to commute distance of the office.
I can only assume the huge companies like Meta are wanting to reduce HR overhead of dealing with different countries and states employment laws, taxes etc.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ancedotally, someone close to me who works at Meta has cited several outrageous examples of WLB'ers doing almost no work. Perhaps a few bad apples spoiled the bunch.
That's frustrating though. Just put those folk on notice, fire them if they dont improve, or fire their managers if they cant fix the problem. baby, bathwater, etc.
They are very aggressively doing just what you describe, too. It's not an either-or type of scenario.
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#34> Mark Zuckerberg pushes the benefits of coming to the office has he stopped believing in the transformative power of the metaverse then?
Metaverse was a last ditch effort when ad market was killed by anti tracking initiatives.
I don't know why Meta exists at this point other than the momentum of a large business with loads of assets and meaningful no product.
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#35I don't blame them. Were entering a bear market, they have disadvantaged themselves with metaverse (although their hand was forced when ad market was nuked). It's a hectic market where job seekers and employers are about to get tight.
You'd think then, entering a bear market, you'd want to keep your best people happy by letting them WFH.
But maybe they're going the HPE route and trying to cut staff via attrition. When I was at HP in 2014, Meg closed all satellite offices and got rid of most WFH- this lead to overly cramped offices as an abundance of employees were dragged back in.
A lot of employees quit or simply took early retirement as a result.
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#36Suddenly all these layoffs from the tech industry now make sense. Companies view the WFH movement and the rights which the workers have gained over the past three years as a threat to their very existence. The layoffs combined with a mandatory return to office will discourage any sort of dissent.
Do they though? I see the WFH movement as a threat to the existence of my job. If the entire IT department works from home, what's stopping the company from moving it to India, Bangladesh or Pakistan? If you live in North America or Europe then I feel like you should fight against WFH, since a lot of smart people in the world would gladly do your job for half the salary.
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#37While it may be controversial, I like that some companies are trying Work from Office, for multiple reasons: It forces companies to tap into a smaller talent pool locally, which can include more junior employees that may require training. This makes the company more inclusive and gives opportunities to those who might not otherwise have access to them. Let's not forget that one of the most successful companies in the…
I truly appreciate the negative climate impacts of Work from Office, the faster we can accelerate global climate change the better!
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#38WFH may very well be a trap for companies to identify their "least loyal" employees. I've heard in business that if you're not at the table you're not involved. I can see a future where the same will be said about WFH: If you're not at the office you're not involved, a team player, or someone to keep.
Why in the future? It is already the case in a lot of companies that are not able to make WFH and office work in parallel, especially on the information sharing, on the spot decision making and so on. My personal biais says that most companies actually failed to transform to viable remote-oriented companies and are not ready to remove the bandaid and bring everyone back to the office.
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#39While it may be controversial, I like that some companies are trying Work from Office, for multiple reasons: It forces companies to tap into a smaller talent pool locally, which can include more junior employees that may require training. This makes the company more inclusive and gives opportunities to those who might not otherwise have access to them. Let's not forget that one of the most successful companies in the…
> My company choose an hybrid option that I find interesting. It is remotely only, but hires only locally.
Oh, the worst of both worlds. The talent pool of one city and reasonable commutes, combined with the great communication and innovation of video calls looking up someone's nose.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
The power dynamic does not require evidence, hence it being the root cause requiring a fix.
i know that's the generic thing to say, and its not untrue. But in this specific case i am curious what went into this decision, as I still have some small respect for the builder focused culture he created at FB for at least the first ~half of its life.
> builder focused culture he created at FB for at least the first ~half of its life
I loved that phase as well. Their culture changed drastically post 2016 elections and they grew too fast and too broad during Covid.