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Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

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Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

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When you look at individuals who have achieved things you admire, it's so often true that they themselves came from outside the status system that existed at that time. They now sit within, or atop the current one, but it's often something they themselves have created to a greater or lesser degree. There's a huge lesson there, I think. Being in that position in the current status system is not and never was their goa…

Please show me a new status system. Not just different people on top of an already existing one.

I could see brand new status systems existing for, say, a new video game. Everyone starts out equally as newbies and works their way up. Maybe someone could leverage their position in a current status system (such as wealth or free time) to boost their potential in this new system.

Brand new industries could create new status systems, though I don't know how often they really do (for instance, the female programmers of the early computer era tended to bring their lower status into the system, not get status from the new system).

I suffer from the problem of not paying attention to status. Which kind of puts me on the outskirts of any status system, or at the very least not able to recognize my status within current systems.

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

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Anyone who is interested in status, I recommend “Impro: Improvisation and The Theatre” by Keith Johnstone. The tldr is in almost every social situation there are “status” games.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/306940.Impro

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20436197

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#33

When you look at individuals who have achieved things you admire, it's so often true that they themselves came from outside the status system that existed at that time. They now sit within, or atop the current one, but it's often something they themselves have created to a greater or lesser degree. There's a huge lesson there, I think. Being in that position in the current status system is not and never was their goa…

Please show me a new status system. Not just different people on top of an already existing one. I could see brand new status systems existing for, say, a new video game. Everyone starts out equally as newbies and works their way up. Maybe someone could leverage their position in a current status system (such as wealth or free time) to boost their potential in this new system. Brand new industries could create new st…

YC

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#34

I think rejecting status wholesale is also a huge mistake. Here’s the harsh reality. Many people judge and make decisions based on status. You can purport be above it and bootstrap and work as hard as you want but that one guy with status will get the raise he needed and now you don’t have. You can then try to lie to yourself that that is just superficial status. But it’s not. That guy can now use those resources to…

Rejecting status wholesale is the greatest form of status.

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#35

https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103497725173760 > Seek wealth, not money or status. Wealth is having assets that earn while you sleep. Money is how we transfer time and wealth. Status is your place in the social hierarchy. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103627387813888 > Ignore people playing status games. They gain status by attacking people playing wealth creation games. From @naval’s Twitter thread “how…

Options, huh? Got it. Puts on Google here we go.

Well who knew it was that easy

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#36

I think rejecting status wholesale is also a huge mistake. Here’s the harsh reality. Many people judge and make decisions based on status. You can purport be above it and bootstrap and work as hard as you want but that one guy with status will get the raise he needed and now you don’t have. You can then try to lie to yourself that that is just superficial status. But it’s not. That guy can now use those resources to…

Yes, I'm about to say it's not a trap. It's a jail! Trying to avoid status makes your life quality worse, more restrict ways of doing things. It's narrower in all directions. It is a jail.

I've actually read the article and it read to me that the author is suggesting against obsessing over status, and not avoiding it.

And it seems to me there's a lot of middle ground between those two things.

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

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post #26

https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103497725173760 > Seek wealth, not money or status. Wealth is having assets that earn while you sleep. Money is how we transfer time and wealth. Status is your place in the social hierarchy. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103627387813888 > Ignore people playing status games. They gain status by attacking people playing wealth creation games. From @naval’s Twitter thread “how…

Material wealth is status. Money is status. Assets that earn while you sleep is status. Money is arguably the ultimate status game.

I disagree; wealth can be displayed as status. Money can be spent in status-seeking ways. But money can also be earned so that one can care for sick family members (or a sick future self), or to put kids through college. Or money can be spent on enjoyable experiences that no one else will see.

Money is not the ultimate status game, even though it is an important ingredient in most status-seeking activities.

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

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post #26

https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103497725173760 > Seek wealth, not money or status. Wealth is having assets that earn while you sleep. Money is how we transfer time and wealth. Status is your place in the social hierarchy. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002103627387813888 > Ignore people playing status games. They gain status by attacking people playing wealth creation games. From @naval’s Twitter thread “how…

Material wealth is status. Money is status. Assets that earn while you sleep is status. Money is arguably the ultimate status game.

This seems overly reductive. Folks without wealth still try to demonstrate brands and experiences associated with wealth: luxury cars, clothes, trips, etc. Yet they sacrifice much more to do so.

Some also posses political forms of power, influence, and status disconnected from wealth. Gandhi for example was never weathly or rich in money or assets.

Appears to me that status is an abstract thing, albeit correlated with wealth.

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please show me a new status system. Not just different people on top of an already existing one. I could see brand new status systems existing for, say, a new video game. Everyone starts out equally as newbies and works their way up. Maybe someone could leverage their position in a current status system (such as wealth or free time) to boost their potential in this new system. Brand new industries could create new st…

YC

That's a club within the venture capital status system, right?

Re: Pursuing status will never bring true happiness

#40

I think rejecting status wholesale is also a huge mistake. Here’s the harsh reality. Many people judge and make decisions based on status. You can purport be above it and bootstrap and work as hard as you want but that one guy with status will get the raise he needed and now you don’t have. You can then try to lie to yourself that that is just superficial status. But it’s not. That guy can now use those resources to…

Yes. There are a lot of, lets say "humble statuses" out there.

For example "has 2 years of dev experience" is a status.

So you can aim for this status, then change jobs to get

"paid over X a year" status.

This status then is seen by the mortgage company.

Then there is the TEDx talk, 10000 start github repo, well know youtuber etc.

These can be carefully crafted stepping stones.

Status as an intermediate goal can be a good thing to use.

Status as FOMO is probably not.

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