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Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by pleb_nz »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #16
pleb_nz wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bank App, NFC bank card payments? Tap and pay or paywave are the best thing to happen in mobile IMO. I don't even carry a wallet anymore. I had having to carry a phone and wallet. Now it's back down to only have to carry one thing. Perfect

> I don't even carry a wallet anymore. That is a lot of faith in the technology. You don't worry about a dead battery? Cracked screen? Phone getting stolen out of your hand in the subway?

Home is never far away. If something like that happened 99.9% of things can wait until I've been home to collect my wallet. Just as much chance if me loosing my wallet as most of the things you mentioned.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by pleb_nz »

adql wrote: post #13
pleb_nz wrote: post #10

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Bank App, NFC bank card payments? Tap and pay or paywave are the best thing to happen in mobile IMO. I don't even carry a wallet anymore. I had having to carry a phone and wallet. Now it's back down to only have to carry one thing. Perfect

I don't trust phone security enough to do that.

It's the same as having a credit card for web orders that has a lower limit, you load the same card into the phone...

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by mustacheemperor »

slowmotiony wrote: post #22

What kind of a bubble do the Ubuntu devs live in if they dont see a reason to show even a single screenshot of their product? What goes through the head of the product manager writing a whole essay and a full extensive changelog but not bothering to add a fucking picture?

To be fair to these particular Ubuntu devs, Touch is now a community effort. Canonical abandoned it in 2017.

Which was always a letdown for me. Loading Ubuntu via a LiveCD onto the family computer to circumvent NetNanny was one of the first "hacker" things I ever did. I was really excited at the prospect of having Ubuntu on a phone.

Maybe I'll pick up a 3a just to tinker with this...

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by imiric »

danjoredd wrote: post #34

If they could release a version for the Pixel 6 I will install it and make it my main mobile OS, Shame the latest they support is the Pixel 3a

If you have a Pixel 6, why would you run anything other than GrapheneOS?

Using a community-maintained port of an abandoned Canonical project would be nice to experiment with, but I doubt it would be anywhere near as usable, reliable, secure and future-proof as Graphene.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by datkam »

mnky9800n wrote: post #29
adql wrote: post #12

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Nah, just seeing Ubuntu does it makes me want to not touch it.

Why don't you like Ubuntu? Because of the Amazon store thing?

Also snaps.. I haven't used Ubuntu in years. I used Manjaro for a while and now Arch for a couple of years.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by m463 »

mnky9800n wrote: post #29
adql wrote: post #12

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Nah, just seeing Ubuntu does it makes me want to not touch it.

Why don't you like Ubuntu? Because of the Amazon store thing?

I think canonical has taken control from users to its own benefit.

As one example, ubuntu-minimal is the minimal meta package, but it has a sneaky dependency on ubuntu-advantage-tools

and ubuntu-advantage-tools is sort of the master phone-home system.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by bguebert »

mnky9800n wrote: post #29
adql wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, just seeing Ubuntu does it makes me want to not touch it.

Why don't you like Ubuntu? Because of the Amazon store thing?

I'm not that guy, but snaps are the main reason for not liking Ubuntu recently. The impression I get is that Canonical is trying to monetize Ubuntu's popularity and a lot of people are resentful of that since Ubuntu gets most of it's value from the free software it bundles into it's distro.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by LanternLight83 »

RealStickman_ wrote: post #15
adql wrote: post #12

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Nah, just seeing Ubuntu does it makes me want to not touch it.

While the project was started by Canonical, they've since cancelled it and UBports, a group of volunteers, have taken over.

Absolutely -- I wouldn't touch ubuntu on a personal device, but UBPorts is well known as the cleanest and most performant desktop for the PinePhone user-base. I'd rather port it than use the other leading mobile desktops (or Ubuntu Touch). They've done great work.

Re: Had enough of Android? First 'Focal' based Ubuntu Touch is out

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Post by tsegratis »

bguebert wrote: post #38
mnky9800n wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you like Ubuntu? Because of the Amazon store thing?

I'm not that guy, but snaps are the main reason for not liking Ubuntu recently. The impression I get is that Canonical is trying to monetize Ubuntu's popularity and a lot of people are resentful of that since Ubuntu gets most of it's value from the free software it bundles into it's distro.

I think you're right, but

Maybe it's my myopia, but I feel they were easily the most dev friend years ago, and poured their life and money into it, to benefit others

But then after ubuntu phone, the level of ingratitude from us devs were shocking

Project focus wasn't always on the ball, but we the community ripped them apart for it

So yeah, snaps is a little more lookin' after number one. I agree with that assessment, but I hardly blame them

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