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Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by zabzonk »

gberger wrote: post #18
ajb wrote: post #11

This just devalues cover letters. As a hiring manager I am strongly motivated to avoid channels which would cause me to wade through a bunch of fake crap. If there turns out to be no way to filter out AI generated text, we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary whose job is just to verify that you are a human being and you have some idea what the job ad said.

> This just devalues cover letters. They already are very low signal. > we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary So like a recruiting agency that does pre-screening? That is a thing already.

> They already are very low signal.

by no means - when i was doing hiring (not now) cover letter was almost always the most important thing. the cv says what you have done, the cover says what you want to do.

> So like a recruiting agency that does pre-screening? That is a thing already.

and a very bad thing - i do not want possible good candidates screened out by some chinless-wonder in an agency.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by 1shooner »

gberger wrote: post #18
ajb wrote: post #11

This just devalues cover letters. As a hiring manager I am strongly motivated to avoid channels which would cause me to wade through a bunch of fake crap. If there turns out to be no way to filter out AI generated text, we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary whose job is just to verify that you are a human being and you have some idea what the job ad said.

> This just devalues cover letters. They already are very low signal. > we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary So like a recruiting agency that does pre-screening? That is a thing already.

>They already are very low signal.

This must vary a lot on context. For the hiring I've done, they're usually a 'low signal' only because they are so uniformly poor. I do read them, and a cogent, original letter immediately stands out.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by lucb1e »

basro wrote: post #14
ajb wrote: post #11

This just devalues cover letters. As a hiring manager I am strongly motivated to avoid channels which would cause me to wade through a bunch of fake crap. If there turns out to be no way to filter out AI generated text, we will end up that you have to attend an in person interview at some intermediary whose job is just to verify that you are a human being and you have some idea what the job ad said.

That sounds like an improvement

Realise that this means more recruiters and it being a hugely valuable service all of a sudden, whereas today it is maybe neutral on the average (helpful for some, annoying for most). Since random strangers on the internet couldn't be trusted in this possible scenario, recruiting firms could be the ones to build up reputations of having suitable/legitimate candidates. You might not realistically be able to get around them.

More middle (wo)men does not sound like an improvement. But to be fair, I don't really know what the deal is with cover letters. When applying to a job, I always write some text in the email that explains why I can do that job and why I'm interested at all, it's not like I just drop my CV on an email address and trust the recipient to take it from there. The application process may be different in NL/DE versus whereever OP lives, or for my line of work compared to theirs.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by pclmulqdq »

vkou wrote: post #30
rosywoozlechan wrote: post #25

So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.

Has anyone hiring for a company with more than 10 employees in the 21st century even read a cover letter? And if they have, are they stupid enough to actually believe it? For most people looking for work, rent's due next month, and they are machine-gunning applications, they aren't actually deeply passionate about getting a job at .

My old manager at a 150-person company used to do it for experienced candidates. It was shocking to me. I think his idea was that he wanted you to be at least thoughtful enough to say something specific about the job and your experience.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by Waterluvian »

vkou wrote: post #30
rosywoozlechan wrote: post #25

So AI resumes and AI cover letters are now being auto-submitted to AI generated automated job postings then parsed by hiring AI. What an absolute circus this is becoming.

Has anyone hiring for a company with more than 10 employees in the 21st century even read a cover letter? And if they have, are they stupid enough to actually believe it? For most people looking for work, rent's due next month, and they are machine-gunning applications, they aren't actually deeply passionate about getting a job at .

I love cover letters for this reason. It’s easy to tell who is shotgunning and who is thoughtfully applying. I might be lucky in the sense that I still get the latter.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by tiedieconderoga »

morkalork wrote: post #7

Bullshit like this is why hiring processes are so insane now.

Unfortunately, there is a massive sale going on for bullshit at the moment.

It's not surprising that people are trying to start businesses which would not be viable in a market where bullshit was more expensive.

Re: Generate a Cover Letter by Pasting the Job Post and Your Resume

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Post by fbdab103 »

lucb1e wrote: post #12

I wonder what I would think of a candidate who submits a computer-generated text for me to read, especially when the input is not even human bullet points but just the job post and the resume. We don't have any formal process for hiring (we're expect this is not going to go over well. As an IT person, I do have to commend the automation, though. There are pros and cons to weigh as you use this.

Assuming they give it a once over sanity check, who cares? Hiring is already a smoke and mirrors game where job seekers have zero insight into what is happening behind the scenes.

Is the job posting real? Has it already been promised to someone's buddy? Is the job real, but significantly below market rate? Will this be pre-screened by HR looking for magical keyword X else it gets thrown in the bin? Has John Carmack already applied, and I would be wasting my time? Is the job real, but it will take six weeks before someone deign acknowledges I applied?

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