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Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by dmn322 »

throwawayai2 wrote: post #24
DethNinja wrote: post #14

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

What happens when no junior devs are hired for 5 years? Who works their way up to replace the seniors who are leaving?

Gpt’s and the various apps that apply them

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by IdiocyInAction »

meghan_rain wrote: post #8
dakial1 wrote: post #4

I don't get some coders/devs/software engineers surprised that LLM can now pretty much create a whole code out of a prompt. Wasn't this the final objective of the programming languages abstraction evolution? From Binary/Assembly to Natural Language Programming? I think it is awesome that more people will be able to create software/products as this accelerates innovation cycles a lot. And, for now, I believe devs that…

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I've copied like 3 things from SO in the last year max. Speak for yourself.

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by grugagag »

throwawayai2 wrote: post #24
DethNinja wrote: post #14

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

What happens when no junior devs are hired for 5 years? Who works their way up to replace the seniors who are leaving?

There’s always a cost to beeing more greedy than you can handle

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by inimino »

meghan_rain wrote: post #8
dakial1 wrote: post #4

I don't get some coders/devs/software engineers surprised that LLM can now pretty much create a whole code out of a prompt. Wasn't this the final objective of the programming languages abstraction evolution? From Binary/Assembly to Natural Language Programming? I think it is awesome that more people will be able to create software/products as this accelerates innovation cycles a lot. And, for now, I believe devs that…

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Or maybe that's just at the places you've worked.

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by [deleted] »

OccamsMirror wrote: post #21
DethNinja wrote: post #14

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

So who will hire the junior software devs?

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Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by jackvezkovic »

meghan_rain wrote: post #17

We need to push the notion that "closed-source LLMs are super dangerous, an existential risk to humanity". Basically we need to equate "safety" in LLMs to mean "being open-source". OpenAI keeps talking about "safety" as the most important goal. If we define it to mean "open-source" then they will be pushed into a corner.

It's "Security Through AI Obscurity"

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by grugagag »

ape4 wrote: post #28
OccamsMirror wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So who will hire the junior software devs?

And how can somebody become a senior dev unless they first worked as a junior

Perhaps some juniors will take it head on solo but will repeat the same mistakes seniors made when they were juniors but will survive nonetheless

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by edgyquant »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #19
DethNinja wrote: post #14

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

> Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. You are overestimating the vast amount of "software engineers" in the world. The overwhelming majority of us are just programmers, we are just gluing together CRUD spaghetti in the random language we grew up with. We don't care too much about work or a career. And most of us don't want to do more, we want…

If your goal was to spend the rest of your life doing something you learn once and getting paid well for it you seriously picked the wrong industry. Engineers have been told to constantly learn new things, know multiple languages etc since the dawn of programming.

I’ve worked with tons of programmers like you describe. I’ve continued to tell them that simple UIs and CRUd interfaces to dbs are solved problems we should not be fighting with.

Re: Post-GPT Computing

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Post by thrown123098 »

dopeboy wrote: post #25
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. You are overestimating the vast amount of "software engineers" in the world. The overwhelming majority of us are just programmers, we are just gluing together CRUD spaghetti in the random language we grew up with. We don't care too much about work or a career. And most of us don't want to do more, we want…

I mean this in the least snarky, most sympathetic way possible: it's time to level up. Countless roles have had to do this, it's now our turn.

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