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Book ban attempts reach “unparalleled” 20-year high in 2022

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Post by huimang »

eldritch_4ier wrote: post #23
mrguyorama wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think books talking about a kid having gay parents are sexually suggestive, the problem is with you, not the books.

Of course. Except the books being removed from school libraries are more like "Gender Queer", which includes a page showing two minors giving a blowjob and doesn't cover anything. Why do you think minors need hardcore porn in the libraries so badly?

Any reasonable person can agree with literal porn being banned. What percentage, exactly, is porn out of all the books being banned?

The thing is that LGBT+ content tends to be conflated with sexual content.

We both know that the vast majority of these books aren't banned because they're obscene. They're being banned because people don't want any mention of LGBT+ people or topics, with flimsy excuses.

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mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

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Post by luxuryballs »

mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

>“should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of”

there’s plenty of things you don’t want kids doing or acting out because they aren’t mature enough yet to know what they’re doing, it’s also OK to disagree on topics of morality, freedom goes both ways

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Post by akomtu »

wizofaus wrote: post #21
Eumenes wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

restricting children's access to sexually suggestive books in tax payer funded schools seems appropriate. the media/press is trying to malign one side into being against free speech and pro-censorship, which is so ironic ... more culture war BS all around

Is there evidence sexually suggestive material has a negative effect on kids? Which specific books did you have in mind anyway?

We could also argue whether teaching about the "benefits" of dog eating would have negative effects. The goal of such "educators" is to uproot the morals early and normalize the abnormal things.

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Post by jstarfish »

mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

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Post by geon »

akomtu wrote: post #34
wizofaus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there evidence sexually suggestive material has a negative effect on kids? Which specific books did you have in mind anyway?

We could also argue whether teaching about the "benefits" of dog eating would have negative effects. The goal of such "educators" is to uproot the morals early and normalize the abnormal things.

What’s wrong with eating dogs?

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mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

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Post by kanbara »

jstarfish wrote: post #35
mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

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i hate to break it to you, but we understand very little of human sexuality as it is. kids, especially as they grow up under parents with ideas like yours, struggle a lot with their identity when they are queer. they're not being coached or groomed, this is such a ridiculous and inflammatory take that does not belong on HN.

have you ever as a teenager thought you may be different? did you have the language to explain how you felt? did you have an authority figure you could confide in? did your parents act hostile towards you or people who you felt you aligned with?

i hope your kids don't end up queer because i fear how they would be treated and how sad they would feel with how much vitriol you seem to have for anything non-cis non-straight. and by the way, the proper term is transgender person.

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jstarfish wrote: post #35
mrguyorama wrote: post #19

The idea that "A kid at school should not be aware of anything their parents don't want them to be aware of" is mind numbingly stupid. How many gay kids have grown up under homophobic parents? How many little girls are told to be subservient to men and know their place? How many kids live in a household that consistently talks about "those thugs" and other clear racism? These kids all exist and it is stupid to think…

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