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Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by sebzim4500 »

swyx wrote: post #29
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #15

Ok. Most STEM students find themselves at one point diving deeper into LaTeX than the actual report subject they are writing. But developing your own replacement to LaTeX is whole new level. Nice one :-)

i wonder if gpt4 eases that pain a bit i suspect it does for basic usecases but will still be ultra painful for advanced ones

GPT-4 probably makes it much easier to write, but modifying latex will still be a pain. Unless you want to copy it into another window, tell ChatGPT what modification you want, and then copy it back.

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by mananaysiempre »

lifeisstillgood wrote: post #15

Ok. Most STEM students find themselves at one point diving deeper into LaTeX than the actual report subject they are writing. But developing your own replacement to LaTeX is whole new level. Nice one :-)

Do note[1] that TeX itself was written as a result of Knuth being unsatisfied with the typesetting of then-newly reissued volume 2 of TAoCP. I don’t know if Lamport encountered the same yak with LaTeX, but I do know he’s a distributed systems researcher, not a programmer in a relevant area :)

[1] https://yakshav.es/the-patron-saint-of-yakshaves/

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by sebzim4500 »

TT-392 wrote: post #22

So, I will try it once I have time, but how doable is it to bent this thing to your will? Because the main problem I have with latex is that I am often trying to do something, which it just isn't made to handle. For example, I often find lots of hyphens and justified text hard to read, so I try to get latex to not use justified text and to never hyphenate. However, latex seems to be really bad when you want to do unc…

Typst is still quite early in development, so there are missing features. Having said that, based on the docs it looks like unjustified text without hyphens is already possible.

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by soperj »

shuntress wrote: post #25

I have spent probably too much time trying to gain a comfortable level of proficiency with LaTex and I have not been able too. Maybe I just don't use it often enough but I always now find myself just using HTML/CSS instead. Even when the thing I'm laying out is specifically just something to be printed. I feel similarly about LaTeX and Vim. I like them. They are interesting. I appreciate the history around their deve…

Vim is pretty easy to remember though, LaTex is something entirely different.

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by bombcar »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #33
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #15

Ok. Most STEM students find themselves at one point diving deeper into LaTeX than the actual report subject they are writing. But developing your own replacement to LaTeX is whole new level. Nice one :-)

Do note[1] that TeX itself was written as a result of Knuth being unsatisfied with the typesetting of then-newly reissued volume 2 of TAoCP. I don’t know if Lamport encountered the same yak with LaTeX, but I do know he’s a distributed systems researcher, not a programmer in a relevant area :) [1] https://yakshav.es/the-patron-saint-of-yakshaves/

LaTeX was and is just a collection of macros on top of TeX.

Few people have every used TeX itself, compared to the massive amounts who have used LaTeX; but if you haven't used raw TeX you should try it sometime; it's surprisingly how simple and powerful it is.

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Post by guax »

sho_hn wrote: post #9

There's also Sile: https://sile-typesetter.org/ LaTeX (Well, LuaTeX) powers my E-ink newspaper ( https://imgur.com/a/NoTr8XX ), but I've been curious to use it as a vehicle to try out some of these alternatives and see if they can put together a non-trivial layout.

This is awesome! Now I want to build one.

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by xavxav »

I was looking for a way to procrastinate on my thesis writing, maybe I'll convert it all to typst!

More seriously, I am really following this project closely, and now that it's open source I'd like to see if its possible to add the key libraries my field needs: mathpartir, and something like semantics? especially if typst can provide better syntax and errors!

Re: Typst, a new markup-based typesetting system, is now open source

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Post by jkepler »

bombcar wrote: post #36
mananaysiempre wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do note[1] that TeX itself was written as a result of Knuth being unsatisfied with the typesetting of then-newly reissued volume 2 of TAoCP. I don’t know if Lamport encountered the same yak with LaTeX, but I do know he’s a distributed systems researcher, not a programmer in a relevant area :) [1] https://yakshav.es/the-patron-saint-of-yakshaves/

LaTeX was and is just a collection of macros on top of TeX. Few people have every used TeX itself, compared to the massive amounts who have used LaTeX; but if you haven't used raw TeX you should try it sometime; it's surprisingly how simple and powerful it is.

I agree. However, it can be tough finding documentation how to use plain TeX. I find that increasingly I'm using OpTeX, which is a much smaller set of macros than LaTeX, simpler this use, understand, and reason about.

https://petr.olsak.net/optex/

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