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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

Check out Llama, Alpaca, Langchain, Dalai.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #14

I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

Fully agree, we need a competitive (even if slightly behind) truly open initiative. The potential (and current) censorship of these models is an oligarch’s wet dream.

With google vs DuckDuckGo etc you can see what websites are returned, and get a sense of the kind of authoritative sources used

With this kind of tech, there’s no real way to know except by comparing precise prompts with one another. But if they’re all behind corporate walls, and they share incentives to say similar things, we’re none the wiser

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #14

I'm still waiting for Hacker News to band together and simply start building an open model that does not require a corporate daddy like OpenAI, Microsoft, Baidu, Google, or anyone else. These models have no place being owned by corporations. The services that use these models are certainly up for grabs, but the models should be open. Who is trying to rally the community to this cause?

I don't know about Hacker News, but there is a community building an open large language model using compute time donated by cloud hosting companies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EleutherAI

They built GPT-J and GPT-NeoX.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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It looks like some journalists already have access. If folks see any takes on how this product compares to GPT4 on quality of responses, please share.

Maybe there's an embargo? Because normally if reporters had access, they'd immediately post results to twitter.

Here's one take: https://twitter.com/jjvincent/status/1638182196283609092

- it's faster (though presumably that's because of limited users)

- unlike Bing, it doesn't cite sources (unless it directly quotes them)

- it seems relatively constrained, giving answers that are anodyne and often dull

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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we’ve also built in guardrails, like capping the number of exchanges in a dialogue, to try to keep interactions helpful and on topic

So it's simultaneously more neutered and less stable than what OpenAI already offers, in addition to being years behind. What exactly is the benefit to being an early adopter of this when there are better alternatives?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I just tried accessing it. When you visit bard.google.com on Firefox it just gives you a generic intro after logging in. I was a little confused and logged in with Chrome, where I now saw a "join waitlist" button. Guess they don't want Firefox user using it.

Overall this just seems underwhelming. Most HN comment's I've read are people saying it doesn't work with their account, doesn't work in their country, doesn't work for some other reason, or works and is very limited compared to ChatGPT.

Google what have you been up to?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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> You’ll receive another email when it’s your turn to test Bard.

> In the meantime, we asked Bard to write you a little poem while you wait.

> May your day be bright, Your mood be light, And your heart be filled with delight. ~ Bard Thank you for registering.

Cute

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