"Antisemitism on Twitter has more than doubled since Elon Musk took over" https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/03/antisemitism-on-...
Elon Musk's tweets unleashed a wave of hate
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#32Re: Elon Musk's tweets unleashed a wave of hate
#33I'm reminded of the Chris Rock joke about Lululemon and their $100 no-hate yoga pants. But given that price they actually hate poor people.
But they hate them without racism.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the difference between far right extremist and center-right person?
One example: tweeting/retweeting debunked conspiracy theories, some of which Musk is forced to delete later due to external criticism and/or personal embarrassment.
Why would this be a signal of right vs left? If I tweet any conspiracy theory, that makes me far-right? Are all lemurians or flat earthers far right?
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#35Funny how the BBC keeps complaining about Musk's Twitter take over but refuses to cover the Twitter Files he's been releasing. Guess those government millions are put to good use.
I've tried to follow every Twitter Files dump and honestly there really isn't anything there to cover. It's like ppointing at people doing their jobs and claiming "there's some seriously scurrious stuff going on over there!"
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the difference between far right extremist and center-right person?
I made a specific statement of fact about the public actions of an individual. I'm not interested in, nor do I think there's anything to be gained by, a broader conversation about the boundaries of right ideologies in this context. If this is a sincere attempt to seek knowledge I recommend wikipedia! FWIW though, people who self identify as members of far right groups like literally neo nazis consider musk an ally. A…
> FWIW though, people who self identify as members of far right groups like literally neo nazis consider musk an ally. And I do trust their judgement on this one very specific thing.
I don’t like this line of reasoning as literal neo nazis also like Coca Cola, and democracy, and Barbara Streisand and many other common things. More information is needed and I think unilateral preferences toward Musk or anything else needs more clarification as to why before they are useful.
Stating that some jerks like someone isn’t really that interesting as it’s such a squishy statement. “Some people who are Nazis consider X an ally” (even though X has made no statements about or even explicitly denounced Nazis).
This seems like a way to throw shade at people without giving a real reason.
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#37Funny how the BBC keeps complaining about Musk's Twitter take over but refuses to cover the Twitter Files he's been releasing. Guess those government millions are put to good use.
The thing is that "the Twitter Files" just... broadly aren't interesting. It's just a bunch of stuff that was already known or internal conversations that don't shift the needle one way or the other. "Social media company has discussion about how to apply moderation practices" isn't news unless you're looking to make a quick buck of pretending that it is. (Especially if you can frame it in such a way that whatever ca…
> "Legal demands" include a combination of court orders and other formal demands to remove content, from both governmental entities and lawyers representing individuals.
I am very very much in doubt that it was publicly _known_ (not theorised) that the government was asking Twitter to delete _legal_ but _undesirable_ tweets!
When the government is suggesting Twitter to censor specific users/subjects/tweets, is that not close to (if not outright) violating the first amendment?
Re: Elon Musk's tweets unleashed a wave of hate
#38Funny how the BBC keeps complaining about Musk's Twitter take over but refuses to cover the Twitter Files he's been releasing. Guess those government millions are put to good use.
The thing is that "the Twitter Files" just... broadly aren't interesting. It's just a bunch of stuff that was already known or internal conversations that don't shift the needle one way or the other. "Social media company has discussion about how to apply moderation practices" isn't news unless you're looking to make a quick buck of pretending that it is. (Especially if you can frame it in such a way that whatever ca…
Alot of people found the Twitter files very interesting indeed, just not the left-wing media.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
One example: tweeting/retweeting debunked conspiracy theories, some of which Musk is forced to delete later due to external criticism and/or personal embarrassment.
Why would this be a signal of right vs left? If I tweet any conspiracy theory, that makes me far-right? Are all lemurians or flat earthers far right?
> Why would this be a signal of right vs left?
That wasn't the question. The question was, "What's the difference between far right extremist and center-right person?"
Re: Elon Musk's tweets unleashed a wave of hate
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I made a specific statement of fact about the public actions of an individual. I'm not interested in, nor do I think there's anything to be gained by, a broader conversation about the boundaries of right ideologies in this context. If this is a sincere attempt to seek knowledge I recommend wikipedia! FWIW though, people who self identify as members of far right groups like literally neo nazis consider musk an ally. A…
> FWIW though, people who self identify as members of far right groups like literally neo nazis consider musk an ally. And I do trust their judgement on this one very specific thing. I don’t like this line of reasoning as literal neo nazis also like Coca Cola, and democracy, and Barbara Streisand and many other common things. More information is needed and I think unilateral preferences toward Musk or anything else n…
You've got an illustrative example and I think it points to something important about the moral rot that results from considering political positions as being at all related to consumer choices.
Individual neo nazis may enjoy the product coca cola, a preference completely orthogonal to their politics. They mostly actually don't like the actions of the coca cola company, they've "gone woke" eg have black and queer people in the ads. That individual neo nazi may decide not to buy coke then, a consumer choice informed by but downstream from their politics, and mediated by their preferences.
I hope you can see the useful difference between these distinct but related interactions. Neo nazis or anyone else for that matter may or may not like elon musk, or use products of companies he runs. And that may be partially informed by their views of his public actions. But by and large neo nazis and other far right extremists do see his actions as aiding their cause, regardless of how they feel about him as a person.
And those actions and their results are what I was talking about, not "liking" or endorsing or engaging with as a consumer choice.