I used ChatGPT to get a refund from Mailchimp when their CKText editor failed to load on International Women's Day, preventing us from sending an email promotion that day. I opened the web inspector to show the library erroring when Mailchimp tried out a to load it, and also provided a screencast. I wasn't blocked, but I did receive a refund. So this must be a relatively new thing! If I were the OP, I would complain…
Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
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#32Very simple for a system to detect the request for the map file.
If that's their vector turn off the autoloader and try from a clean IP.
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#33How can they tell that you opened dev tools?
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#34That's an anticompetitive move. If you need to switch senders for some reason, the inspector is the only clean way to get an email's HTML into another ESP.
Makes no sense. If you’re considering switching to a different provider, getting blocked makes it impossible to continue to use the service?
Even if you are a single organization user and leaving for good, you might do so gradually or perform test sends first. Speaking from experience again.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you for the description. I assume they're using a bot management script which is set to block requests if devtools is open. For such websites, opening devtools in a separate window should work. Some websites will try to throw you into a loop of debugger statements if they detect devtools being opened, which is harder to work around, but it doesn't seem to be the case here.
Is there an extension or workaround that prevents sites from knowing you opened devtools (without breaking everything else on the site)?
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#36That's an anticompetitive move. If you need to switch senders for some reason, the inspector is the only clean way to get an email's HTML into another ESP.
Is that true? An email client like Thunderbird or Mail will save a copy of the email on your local hard drive, which will include the HTML. This isn't something I do regularly, but would be first first response if I needed to see the HTML of an email. Maybe Mailchimp has protections against this route too?
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#37Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#38Can this be used to make MailChimp stop sending spam to an address?
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#39Re: Tell HN: MailChimp blacklists your IP if you open the browser's dev tools
#40Well that is poopy. Is there a way I can “stealth” open dev tools on all sites? I like to see network requests in a lot of places, but don’t like to think the server will change their responses based on my local actions.
There are a couple of ways they can try to detect devtools being opened. As the sibling comment implies, the most popular way is to detect a sudden viewport resize, and you can avoid that by ensuring your devtools are set to open in a new window before opening them. The only other ways I'm aware of are: - Detecting the keyboard shortcut, ⌘⌥i or equivalent, which you can avoid by using the browser menu, and - More ris…
Toggle the thing in the dotted rectangle: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/devtools-user/debugg...