I'll take "futile humanism" for $1000, Alex.
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Art will continue to evolve with AI. Another argument I keep hearing (most recently from pg), is that we'll always need non-AI training data. That, too, doesn't follow. Training new models on synthetic data does not mean we get stuck in a particular mode or style. We'll continue moving, improving, and trying wildly new things. Bootstrapping with synthetic data doesn't block evolution - it enables faster evolution, ev…
I think the same. Many artists hate because they feel threatened. I think the opposite: creating art (e.g. Drawing) was only for the ones who had drawing skills. Now, it's being democratized and everyone, regardless of being talented in drawing or not, can freely express their feelings and creativity. I think it's a great thing.
Hard disagree. Most people can draw if they put in the time but they don't. Artists did and bet their careers on it but now their effort is being trivialized by people who want a bot to "draw the owl".
This is all explained well by "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain". People apply their childhood drawing symbols to realistic art in their teenage years and get frustrated. They never learn to see with an artistic eye and quit.
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#33A quote I heard recently that really resonated with me: "Soon, asking a writer if they use AI will be like asking a photographer if they use Photoshop" – e.g., it's a foregone conclusion, and the best artists will generally adapt to using the best tools available
Cortes vs the Aztecs
Aside: "1491" is an informative book that might dispense with that particular metaphor.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
But still, content creators get badges/s I generally agree that it will become increasingly harder to distinguish non-AI generated content and authenticity will suffer a lot. Maybe the solution to this is get connected with other humans directly and provide authenticity as first hand experience.
From consumer’s perspective they don’t care where it came from. In commercial setting(read: 99%) it’s always get stuff cheaper and better. AIGC fits both, the only better options is run faster than the waves and hope it don’t take you(i.e. “learn to code”) This is the “disruption” we tech and VC has been talking XR/Crypto/5g/metaverse is about. Except it came with large body counts for those who are directly impacted…
Somehow all this AI cannot break out of the advertising/spam mold it seems. All the billions made in high-value markets just cannot be reached so far.
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#35A quote I heard recently that really resonated with me: "Soon, asking a writer if they use AI will be like asking a photographer if they use Photoshop" – e.g., it's a foregone conclusion, and the best artists will generally adapt to using the best tools available
Exactly, it's a tool. The skill floor, as in the minimum amount of skill to produce something passable, has been lowered -- dramatically lowered -- but the skill ceiling is now higher than ever as a result.
It's similar to music. DAWs and samples didn't kill off music; instead, it made it easier than ever for a teenager with a computer and a passing interest in music to create a song and share it with a world. As a consequence, though, the standards for mixing and mastering have gone up massively; people don't really tolerate bedroom recordings with $10 mics any more. I imagine most amateur musicians in the 90s didn't know what a compressor actually did (I certainly didn't).
Seeing the results of talented artists who are experimenting with AI[0] makes you realize that there's still going to be a massive gulf between skilled artists using SD etc as a tool, versus those who think they can be artists just by putting keywords into an image generation AI and calling it a day.
[0] https://twitter.com/jamm3rd/status/1619896080619159553 https://twitter.com/jamm3rd/status/1633758455952703488/photo... (moderately nsfw I guess)
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#36> The following guidelines provide instructions on how to use the Not an AI badge.
phew. need GPT to show me how to properly use the badge.
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#37A quote I heard recently that really resonated with me: "Soon, asking a writer if they use AI will be like asking a photographer if they use Photoshop" – e.g., it's a foregone conclusion, and the best artists will generally adapt to using the best tools available
Exactly, but the implication is different for me. I dislike all the filters and think this is the weirdest thing ever, to blur oneself on photos. People, who heavily use blurring to mask their wrinkles, produce - in my opinion - photos that look like grimaces. I find the pictures as well as the people using filters somewhat scary, because what happens if you meet them face to face? Use something like Google Glasses and real time filtering?
For literature, it could be interesting, how authors use new tools, where and in what sense. Maybe have more conclusive plots? Less inconsistencies? Have AI imitate dead poets' style?
We will value the classics more I guess, since they were done the old fashioned way.
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#38Maybe we should have a "MOBA"[0] badge?
[ Art Too Bad To Have Been Done By AI ]
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#39Your new mission as a human is to write is such a way that nobody suspects you are an LLM. When you are done writing, ask an LLM to write on the subject you have addressed, and if the output is similar, scrap yours and start over. If you need a badge to alert people to your humanity then you have been acting like a robot, a behavioral deficiency only you can correct.
I realize this is in jest, but to point out the obvious, ML (AI is such a bullshit term. ANI/AGI/ASI, etc) models are trained on human written text. With ANI or AGI, this rapidly devolves into a chicken or the egg scenario. You know what else does? The cold war & arms proliferation. By the time ASI is actualized, humans will no longer be writing at all and languages as we know them will be obsolete. There is a lot of…
It is only mostly a joke. OpenAI's LLMs have a definite voice, and that voice is "your real estate agent is also your manager". If a person finds ChatGPT's output good enough to turn in as an assignment at school, or mail to a colleague, I think that person has little appreciation for the possibilities of language.
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#40> If humans rely solely on AI to generate content moving forward, any new content generated by AI may just be recycled content from the past. To be honest, I’d struggle to find any human content that is not recycled from the past. I guess we are still better than AI at remixing sufficiently novel combinations of concepts but I think much of this AI content aversion comes from some kind of phobia, or an unwillingness…
I imagine there'll be a lot more talk of the soul from a lot of techies from now on. Or at the least talk of the human touch from people who were erstwhile trying to get machines to automate everything.