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Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

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Post by davidw »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #11
tptacek wrote: post #9

Have been using and loving Bootstrap for the past few weeks. Can't recommend it highly enough. I thought Themeforest templates were a great secret weapon, but the thoughtfulness that went into the actual markup in Bootstrap makes working with it fast and painless. That said: no idea what's in Bootstrap 2. Someone got a concise summary?

The docs offer more details: http://markdotto.com/bs2/docs/index.html Here's my quick (and probably incomplete) list: - new 12 column grid - responsive layout - tons of new JS plugins - stacked forms are now the default - lots of new 'controls', like split buttons, new tabs, toolbars, highly styled radio buttons and check boxes. - icons(!)

I wonder if this puts it 'ahead' of Zurb Foundation?

I have this sneaking suspicion that even if Zurb does a 'good' job, unless it's way better, they're never going to get the publicity these guys do, and thus won't have quite the same feedback loop.

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#32

Post by aaronbrethorst »

davidw wrote: post #31
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The docs offer more details: http://markdotto.com/bs2/docs/index.html Here's my quick (and probably incomplete) list: - new 12 column grid - responsive layout - tons of new JS plugins - stacked forms are now the default - lots of new 'controls', like split buttons, new tabs, toolbars, highly styled radio buttons and check boxes. - icons(!)

I wonder if this puts it 'ahead' of Zurb Foundation? I have this sneaking suspicion that even if Zurb does a 'good' job, unless it's way better, they're never going to get the publicity these guys do, and thus won't have quite the same feedback loop.

Good question, I don't know the answer. Honestly, I've looked at Zurb Foundation a couple times, didn't see anything that looked like an order of magnitude of 'betterness' over Bootstrap, and decided to keep using Bootstrap because of that feedback loop.

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#34

Post by ThomPete »

tptacek wrote: post #17
ibejoeb wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big one, for me at least, is the move from a 16-column grid to a 12-column grid. I didn't look into the technical differences, just those that would impact development with it. I just converted a ton of stuff (like last week ), so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I feel like I should have checked the wip branch first, but this has really become my favorite kit. I've been about 95% YUI and the remainder OOCSS, and Bo…

I found the dox from Aaron's comment (thanks, everyone!). Bootstrap 2 looks amazing. What's the win going from 16 to 12 columns?

You get better divider flexibility with the columns.

You basically can divide it in half (6 columns each), in thirds (four columns each) in fourth (three columns each), in 6th (two columns each and in all 12 plus of course spanning the entirety.

16 gives you only 1, half,

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#35

Post by latchkey »

mrchess wrote: post #15

Does anyone know why LESS was picked over SASS for Bootstrap?

While Less and Sass are really similar products that do pretty much the same thing; I switched my site from initially using Sass (scss) to now using Less for three reasons:

a) Bootstrap uses less and I'm using bootstrap.

b) It was trivial to go from sass to less. Mostly just renaming files to have the right suffix.

c) I'm sure someone can argue differently, but I really think that the mixin syntax for Less is significantly better than Sass. I don't use mixins all the time, but this is really important if you want re-usable code. With Less, you don't have to declare @mixin and then @include it. Instead, any less block becomes a potential mixin.

That said, Sass has a compressor/minimizer and Less doesn't really have one. I had to integrate clean-css into my builds. It would be nice if Less had this by default.

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#36

Post by zmillman »

nsxwolf wrote: post #33

I recently used Bootstrap to skin the initial version of my paste bin project, and it produced a very nice result with no effort, especially for someone who is not a front-end guy. http://paste.ly/ Looking forward to digging into Bootstrap 2.

You should give your submit inputs the 'btn' class for better styling. The default style for submits makes them look disabled.

(you can also add the 'primary' class to provide a splash of color and highlight the recommended action)

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#37

Post by tedsuo »

tptacek wrote: post #17
ibejoeb wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big one, for me at least, is the move from a 16-column grid to a 12-column grid. I didn't look into the technical differences, just those that would impact development with it. I just converted a ton of stuff (like last week ), so it's pretty fresh in my mind. I feel like I should have checked the wip branch first, but this has really become my favorite kit. I've been about 95% YUI and the remainder OOCSS, and Bo…

I found the dox from Aaron's comment (thanks, everyone!). Bootstrap 2 looks amazing. What's the win going from 16 to 12 columns?

You can also change the number of columns using LESS.

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#38

Post by tstegart »

ThomPete wrote: post #34
tptacek wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found the dox from Aaron's comment (thanks, everyone!). Bootstrap 2 looks amazing. What's the win going from 16 to 12 columns?

You get better divider flexibility with the columns. You basically can divide it in half (6 columns each), in thirds (four columns each) in fourth (three columns each), in 6th (two columns each and in all 12 plus of course spanning the entirety. 16 gives you only 1, half,

Any recommendations on how to use grids? I've seen them talked about but I don't actually know what to do with it. How does it help you?

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#39

Post by nsxwolf »

zmillman wrote: post #36
nsxwolf wrote: post #33

I recently used Bootstrap to skin the initial version of my paste bin project, and it produced a very nice result with no effort, especially for someone who is not a front-end guy. http://paste.ly/ Looking forward to digging into Bootstrap 2.

You should give your submit inputs the 'btn' class for better styling. The default style for submits makes them look disabled. (you can also add the 'primary' class to provide a splash of color and highlight the recommended action)

Thanks for the tip! That looks a lot better now.

Re: Twitter's Bootstrap 2 ready for testing and feedback

#40

Post by ashot »

nsxwolf wrote: post #39
zmillman wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should give your submit inputs the 'btn' class for better styling. The default style for submits makes them look disabled. (you can also add the 'primary' class to provide a splash of color and highlight the recommended action)

Thanks for the tip! That looks a lot better now.

is this:

http://paste.ly/pastes

intentional?

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