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Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by seanw444 »

Zetice wrote: post #26
seanw444 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I am. I have a right to. If you want to have plausible deniability when you inevitably must do something legally wrong but morally right, then you must always be hiding.

No? Also I do struggle to think of a situation, for me, that would require TOR access in order to do something morally right but illegal.

The most obvious example: whistleblowing.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by IntelMiner »

moremetadata wrote: post #30
blauditore wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can totally imagine they're using Tor for some undercover (foreign) operations or similar. I don't think the US Government with all its branches is known to practise exactly what it preaches.

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For what it's worth, the creators of Tor have stated their philosophy around that problem. Effectively that they shouldn't be the arbiter of what people can access

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by Ajedi32 »

washmyelbows wrote: post #17
winter_blue wrote: post #15

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I'm not sure which page of the link above (the tax return) I'm supposed to look at... Where does it say the US govt is funding Tor, and if so, by what amount are they funding Tor?

page 10 lists over 2 million in government grants

So about half of their revenue in 2020, according to that same page.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by huggingmouth »

moremetadata wrote: post #30
blauditore wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can totally imagine they're using Tor for some undercover (foreign) operations or similar. I don't think the US Government with all its branches is known to practise exactly what it preaches.

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> Ten years ago the US Navy invented Tor, an anonymous web browser. Now the ‘dark net’ is used to trade guns, drugs and child pornography, do its creators have any regrets?

I hope they don't. I certainly wouldn't. Despite some of its glaring downsides, I firmly belive that Tor is a net positive for humanity.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by Mtinie »

WithinReason wrote: post #10
sodality2 wrote: post #9

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It looks like there are multiple "Green Onion Members", which is 10k-49k.

It's possible they only donate the minimum to get into the tier

And they should be applauded for that. The tiered naming system is working as intended.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by ccooffee »

moremetadata wrote: post #30
blauditore wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can totally imagine they're using Tor for some undercover (foreign) operations or similar. I don't think the US Government with all its branches is known to practise exactly what it preaches.

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Well, parts of the US government engage in arms trafficking and drug trafficking (sometimes at the same time, as in Iran-Contra). I hope they don't do CSAM trafficking or human trafficking, but I wouldn't be surprised at the least.

Re: Mullvad becomes highest level of Tor Member (Shallot)

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Post by Zetice »

seanw444 wrote: post #31
Zetice wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No? Also I do struggle to think of a situation, for me, that would require TOR access in order to do something morally right but illegal.

The most obvious example: whistleblowing.

Fair enough, but I have no idea how that would require me to always use TOR, lest the insanely unlikely scenario arise that I need to expose some hidden information.

Also wait, whistleblowing on the government? I’m not privy to anything like that.

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