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Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

...call their customer support? This is a pretty simple problem to explain no?

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

#32
post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

That seems like a great way to make a quick buck out of a libel lawsuit.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #10

Isn't this just "Now you can pay to purchase and operate hardware to compensate for our crappy coverage, so we don't have to improve it ourselves?"

They already sell 5g stations to use in your home when they don't have coverage.

I dont know if I want to be so close to a 5G transmitter after reading this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34778597/

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #4

If we could get an off the shelf SOC that's powerful enough to manage a PCIe daughter card, that would make me so happy. Software defined radio, offloaded eBPF, RAID controllers, are just the most obvious compute peripherals but there are a million others that could exist but don't. edit: acronym typo

We maybe come from different worlds but I have soc == security operations centre and ebnf == extended Backus-Naur form. What are these in the context of your comment, though?

Not them but I would assumes SoC is System on (a) Chip, and ebnf may be a typo of eBPF (in the context of eBPF offloading to perform filtering on the NIC [1])

[1] https://www.netronome.com/media/documents/eBPF_HW_OFFLOAD_HN...

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer.

Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base.

When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education.

His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds good. But years down the track, nothing changed. What should have happened is that Upton should have given the industrial buyers a six months warning to find other ways to build their products instead of Raspberry Pi. That never happened. Instead, Raspberry Pi simply turned into a dedicated industrial computing supplier. Businesses have the means and the expertise to redesign their products around different computing technology - they did not need a blanket commitment forever from Raspberry Pi to support their technology directions.

The outcome of this decision has been that Raspberry Pi and Eben Upton have sold out the community that got Raspberry pi to where it is.

He sold out the kids and the schools and sold out the hobbyists.

I think that in the Covid time, if anything, he should have prioritised schools and children. When they were sitting at home in lockdown they could have been learning computing with a Raspberry Pi.

So its now years down the track and nothing has changed. You can't get a Raspberry Pi because they are sold to industrial buyers like Vodafone.

Raspberry Pi's loyal community and especially the kids and the schools deserved better than being sold out.

There's lots of alternatives to Raspberry Pi - give them your loyalty and your money.... here's some:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8clrUclPIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGcWLgAk5kA

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

You just made me realise something. For 10 years , every month I'd received an SMS saying: > Your latest bill $-0.02 on [... blah blah...] From a telco provider I no longer use. Turns out they finally stopped messaging me in November last year. I wonder if they worked it out or whether their system gives up after 10 years. Hopefully you don't have to wait that long!

I wonder if there's a way we could estimate the global power consumption for digital junk mail in units of tons of coal

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #4

If we could get an off the shelf SOC that's powerful enough to manage a PCIe daughter card, that would make me so happy. Software defined radio, offloaded eBPF, RAID controllers, are just the most obvious compute peripherals but there are a million others that could exist but don't. edit: acronym typo

Rock 5B [1] or any other board running on a RK33588

[1] https://wiki.radxa.com/Rock5/hardware/5b

You have 4x lanes of Pcie 3.0 and the Rock 5b has 2.5gb Ethernet too.

Software support isn't there yet but it's slowly getting better.

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain.

Seems a bit harsh to blame them for selling their products to the customers who are most able to pay for them, which enables them to stay in business. (Whatever quantity Vodafone is buying is DEFINITELY more than any hobbyist is able to pay.)

Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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This is the reason why you can't get a Raspberry Pi computer. Eben Upton, (Raspberry Pi Founder) sold out his his base. When the chip shortage hit, Upton made the decision to prioritise supply to industrial buyers over retail/hobbyists/education. His rationale was that companies that had bills to pay and salaries to pay should get priority because people's livelihoods depended on getting those Raspberry Pi's. Sounds…

Raspberry Pi is a corporate endeavor as well. They also have employees, and a payroll to maintain. Seems a bit harsh to blame them for selling their products to the customers who are most able to pay for them, which enables them to stay in business. (Whatever quantity Vodafone is buying is DEFINITELY more than any hobbyist is able to pay.)

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Re: Vodafone unveils prototype 5G network built on a Raspberry Pi computer

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post #27

Ok this is cool but maybe Vodafone can focus on more customer-oriented things like figuring out how I can pay them the -7000 CZK they've been harassing me about for 2 months. Effectively I overpaid last year (due to their billing stupidity) and now they've been threatening to disconnect if I don't pay them minus US$315-ish. I don't quite know how to do that legally... Stupid company.

...call their customer support? This is a pretty simple problem to explain no?

Do you really think the outsourced customer support agent paid a few bucks a day is going to 1) understand your problem, 2) care about it enough to investigate it and 3) will be given the tools and access required to investigate it, 4) has a suitable escalation path to escalate what is clearly a billing system bug to the engineering department and that 5) there is actually an engineering department with competent developers working on the billing system and it's not some shitty outsourced big ball of mud acquired a decade ago that everyone is scared to touch ever since.
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