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DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by kaelinl »

dmix wrote: post #28
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #26

Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

Only 1) would be really valuable here. Expecting a legitimate 2) explanation from a DMCA request is idealistic/naive. Otherwise HN comments usually provide the rest. News/blog posts with loaded headlines can often derail conversations as much as provide context. Which is why I'm hesitant to expect HN's frontpage to be an editorialized newspaper or heavily moderated forum that better serves the low engagement crowd. I…

No, GitHub posts their received DMCA notices publicly and links to them from the takedown page. So 2) is a reasonable expectation and it isn't present here, suggesting the post title is pure speculation.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by srj »

If this was a DMCA takedown they need to file a counter notice, at which point I believe GitHub will reinstate them. Unless it's glaringly obvious that the original claim was abusive AFAIK the law doesn't give any leeway.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by mrgalaxy »

paraselene_ wrote: post #27
Someone1234 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I sent a DMCA notice against every one of Microsoft's Repos on Github, they would go down for ten days if I ignored the counter-claim? Because if not, why not?

Because that'd be perjury, which is a federal crime. https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic... I'm just gonna quote GitHub "The DMCA requires that you swear to the facts in your copyright complaint under penalty of perjury. It is a federal crime to intentionally lie in a sworn declaration. (See U.S. Code, Title 18, Section 1621.) Submitting false information could also result in civil liability…

Seems like no one has ever been prosecuted for perjury on a DMCA take down notice. This feels like more of an empty threat by Github to prevent false DMCA complaints, but of course submitting claims on their repos would be one heck of a way to test that.

https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/51541/has-anyone-bee...

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by LordDragonfang »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #26

Note to article submitters: The HN audience aren't mind readers. Posting a link like this, which simply shows the GitHub repo being taken down with a terms of service violation, with no further information, isn't helpful. There is no info: 1. on what iptv-org/iptv actually is/was. 2. that corroborates that this was actually a DMCA takedown request 3. that actually provides any additional context at all about when/why…

From a mirrored/archived version of the README:

>Collection of publicly available IPTV (Internet Protocol television) channels from all over the world.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by adobrawy »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #8

Github posts their DMCA claims, and I'm not seeing one for iptv https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=iptv&type=

The DMCA repository was last updated 2 days ago, and this link likely appeared on HackerNews only a few hours after the IPTV repository was unpublished. Therefore, it appears that they simply have not yet published the DMCA notice.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by ranger_danger »

paraselene_ wrote: post #27
Someone1234 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I sent a DMCA notice against every one of Microsoft's Repos on Github, they would go down for ten days if I ignored the counter-claim? Because if not, why not?

Because that'd be perjury, which is a federal crime. https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/content-removal-polic... I'm just gonna quote GitHub "The DMCA requires that you swear to the facts in your copyright complaint under penalty of perjury. It is a federal crime to intentionally lie in a sworn declaration. (See U.S. Code, Title 18, Section 1621.) Submitting false information could also result in civil liability…

Wouldn't there effectively be no penalty if it were submitted by a user in another country? Also good luck proving that anyone "knowingly materially misrepresents" anything.

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by ranger_danger »

crorella wrote: post #22
2h wrote: post #16

I would recommend avoiding making contributions on GitHub. If you want an account for search and whatnot fine, but I had an account with hundreds of stars killed. They said it was because I created a second account. I said they could delete the second account, or I would do it. They refused to accept this suggestion and are keeping both banned. What's worse is they also kill every single issue, PR and comment you've…

What would you recommend instead?

anything that is self-hosted is not gonna go down by way of someone else you have no control over

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by RajT88 »

2h wrote: post #16

I would recommend avoiding making contributions on GitHub. If you want an account for search and whatnot fine, but I had an account with hundreds of stars killed. They said it was because I created a second account. I said they could delete the second account, or I would do it. They refused to accept this suggestion and are keeping both banned. What's worse is they also kill every single issue, PR and comment you've…

Woah, what? I have a GitHub account for work, and one for personal stuff. (Separation of church and state is a good idea)

Are you saying, I could get both nuked if they find out it's the same person?

Re: DMCA Takedown of iptv-org/iptv on GitHub

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Post by syrrim »

adobrawy wrote: post #35
boomboomsubban wrote: post #8

Github posts their DMCA claims, and I'm not seeing one for iptv https://github.com/github/dmca/search?q=iptv&type=

The DMCA repository was last updated 2 days ago, and this link likely appeared on HackerNews only a few hours after the IPTV repository was unpublished. Therefore, it appears that they simply have not yet published the DMCA notice.

It seems like they don't publish updates on weekends or US holidays. So if it is a dmca, we're likely to see it published in that repo tomorrow.
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