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Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #29

Excellent article, and a very interesting look into how a society may accelerate its development. Perhaps maker spaces are born of a similar ethos, though of course very stem driven. Unfortunately it seems that as formal education has become more institutionalised and more necessary as a marker for employability, doing anything remotely 'bookish' in your free time has become almost definitively 'uncool'. A shame.

It sounds like you're comparing the situation outlined in the article to somewhere you're familiar with when you say 'bookish' is 'uncool'. Where is that?

Gen X Anglosphere

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

#33

Is there anything similar in other European countries as well?

There are the chitalishte institution in Bulgaria which are centers for education, culture and furthering national movement in the very beginning. Couldn't find a good source in english.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitalishte

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #12
post #7

> one can debate the morality of funding book clubs with taxpayers' money You could debate it but I would find it hard to find better uses of that money if it is spent on those would otherwise not be able to afford such things.

Libraries are already free. The money here is supposedly used for coffee (or whatever) while meeting and discussing books.

Their purpose is different. Libraries are for book storage, book clubs are for dissemination.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #12
post #7

> one can debate the morality of funding book clubs with taxpayers' money You could debate it but I would find it hard to find better uses of that money if it is spent on those would otherwise not be able to afford such things.

Libraries are already free. The money here is supposedly used for coffee (or whatever) while meeting and discussing books.

For countries where pre-school to university education is funded with taxpayers money and citizens have a right to education whenever they please, I don't think a book club is going to break the camel's back.

I'm speaking as someone who has been enrolled in university for most of his adult life, attending whatever I feel like, while paying for it with my taxes. Public libraries, schools, and universities here have all sorts of clubs and events as part of their program.

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #9

> This is a linkpost for https://escapingflatland.substack.com/p/popular-education-in... Dang, the link is just a ripoff repost; could you fix the URL to be the original above? I saw the same thing (“this is a link post”) earlier this week and only now realize it wasn’t a one off.

Given that the author seems to have reposted it themselves, I’m not sure it’s an issue

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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> A good educational system should have three purposes: it should provide all who want to learn with access to available resources at any time in their lives; empower all who want to share what they know to find those who want to learn it from them; and, finally, furnish all who want to present an issue to the public with the opportunity to make their challenge known.

I wonder if this quote is still something we believe is correct. Implied here is that "learning" and "sharing what they know" are unqualified good. But I think there is lots of that on the internet these days... much of it bad. But then who gets to decide what is or isn't the right kind of learning in this model?

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #25

What can we read to get a fair overview of Swedish culture with regards to intellectual curiousity, education, conformism (I've seen this claimed but have no firsthand experience), and so on? Here is one starting point: "Small Facts and Large Issues: The Anthropology of Contemporary Scandinavian Society" : https://www.jstor.org/stable/2155886 ... I haven't read it yet. I like the anthropological point of view though.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3791704

How is "Racism and Support of Free-Market Capitalism: A Cross-Cultural Analysis" relevant to my question? I didn't ask about economic systems in particular. Is there something in there about sociological perspectives?

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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This gives a really distorted image of the real Sweden I know. 99% of kids in real Sweden are definitely not hanging out at these educational centers: in this massively conformist society (especially for teenagers), the kids are getting hold of beer as soon as they can, driving cars to the nearest petrol station or out-of-town car parks, and burning tire marks in the asphalt. This sort of article is just window-dress…

As a non-Swede, I didn’t get the bit about “massively conformist society”. Could you please expand on it a little or point to some reading about it?

Re: Popular education in Sweden: much more than you wanted to know (2022)

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post #6

> Bildung etymologically refers to shaping yourself in the image (das Bild) of God Is this really true? The liked wikipedia page does not seem to support that.

It's complicated, but it's not wrong. [1]

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildung#Begriffsbildung:~:text...

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