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Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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Engineering Managers will also begin to code again [1] [1] https://twitter.com/TitterTakeover/status/162873730347973836...

This whole management heavy culture needs to F off. 9/10 people who wants to be a manager are awful as software engineers and they know this is the only way they can stay in the game. Out of those who do become engineering managers it seems all they do is talk a bunch of nonsense and add tremendous levels of roadblocks because they suck at understanding the actual technical problems and I’ll be honest. They’re usuall…

Who hurt you?

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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post #8

cuts this big would have to be in the california WARN database. 0/10

Google just kept (is keeping) its laid off employees on the payroll during the WARN period, but cut all other ties. WARN notices went out when layoffs were announced.

That basically is what, and why, severance is provided. The employees stay on payroll and get regular pay during the WARN prior notice period.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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I would not invest in Meta's metaverse future. It feels like Windows Mobile. Meta has the early start, money, captive audience and enthusiasm, but they don't have the hardware/software edge (that Apple coincidentally also has this time around) to really make the idea work. The headsets are not going to revolutionize much running Facebook games on budget Qualcomm SoCs, and Facebook cant buy an Unreal Engine or an M2 P…

Or the Pocket PC, or the Zune, or Microsoft Bob, or Bing, or The Microsoft Network, or Clippy.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

#36

I would not invest in Meta's metaverse future. It feels like Windows Mobile. Meta has the early start, money, captive audience and enthusiasm, but they don't have the hardware/software edge (that Apple coincidentally also has this time around) to really make the idea work. The headsets are not going to revolutionize much running Facebook games on budget Qualcomm SoCs, and Facebook cant buy an Unreal Engine or an M2 P…

Facebook can, and still could totally buy Unity. This is something that they've discussed years before the pandemic or metaverse hype. https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1619818349525086208?s=... From internal emails from Zuck^. Also has a bonus glimpse into their VR/AR strategy

This makes a ton of sense because a lot of Unity's business is in their ad platform, not engine licensing. Horizon Worlds is written in Unity, and it gives them full control over their hardware/software platform.

It would do a lot of harm to Unity's relationship with smaller developers though, to Godot's benefit.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole management heavy culture needs to F off. 9/10 people who wants to be a manager are awful as software engineers and they know this is the only way they can stay in the game. Out of those who do become engineering managers it seems all they do is talk a bunch of nonsense and add tremendous levels of roadblocks because they suck at understanding the actual technical problems and I’ll be honest. They’re usuall…

Who hurt you?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here: an engineering manager.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

#38

I would not invest in Meta's metaverse future. It feels like Windows Mobile. Meta has the early start, money, captive audience and enthusiasm, but they don't have the hardware/software edge (that Apple coincidentally also has this time around) to really make the idea work. The headsets are not going to revolutionize much running Facebook games on budget Qualcomm SoCs, and Facebook cant buy an Unreal Engine or an M2 P…

I don't think you are wrong. I do think vr is Sony's to lose, though. The number of PlayStations they have in consumers houses is insane. And the new vr2 is quite impressive.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole management heavy culture needs to F off. 9/10 people who wants to be a manager are awful as software engineers and they know this is the only way they can stay in the game. Out of those who do become engineering managers it seems all they do is talk a bunch of nonsense and add tremendous levels of roadblocks because they suck at understanding the actual technical problems and I’ll be honest. They’re usuall…

Who hurt you?

I’ve quit jobs before over awful managers.

Nobody hurt me because for me at least, I’ve gotten every job I’ve applied to. For example I got bored of my last company and my manager, applied to four companies and got each job, then just picked the one that paid most.

I don’t like dealing with incompetent people. It’s that simple. I’m not a bottom feeder lmao.

Re: Another Round of Layoffs at Meta

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post #7
post #4

I imagine Meta has a harder time recruiting then their peer companies, because of their reputation and the moral hazard. I wonder how much investment it will take them to get staff levels back to where they are now. It really feels like they are peaking as a company.

Maybe this will be true in the years going forward, but AFAIK even in 2022 they were still considered top tier FAANG to work for among new grads, if only for the fact that compensation is generally somewhat higher than their peers.

New grads have lost their minds. It is really sad to see the state of affairs. When we were coming out we used to shun large companies. Now they are joining large companies. Sad!
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