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Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by pabs3 »

pastage wrote: post #5
sandos wrote: post #3

I assume this is from openstreetmap? Although I've never seen trees with specific info in osm.

This is available in the London's datastore under open government license according to the FAQ. And no the data is not imported to OSM at this date. But the doc for natural=tree tag in OSM does have quite a lot of possible extra types, leaf_type and cycle are the most common. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=tree

Any idea why the data doesn't get imported into OSM? Seems like local governments worldwide should be doing this.

Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by rootusrootus »

gpa wrote: post #13
IndigoIncognito wrote: post #8

They have data for a tree in my garden. I got the tree cut down and there was so much bureaucracy to go through just to cut it, I guess it is a protected piece of nature or something of the sort?

I like how they protect their trees in the United Kingdom. This approach to environmental preservation should be adopted globally.

That's not uncommon in many cities in the US, too. On your property or not, once a tree is established, it can be a chore to cut it down.

Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by ygra »

pabs3 wrote: post #31
pastage wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is available in the London's datastore under open government license according to the FAQ. And no the data is not imported to OSM at this date. But the doc for natural=tree tag in OSM does have quite a lot of possible extra types, leaf_type and cycle are the most common. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=tree

Any idea why the data doesn't get imported into OSM? Seems like local governments worldwide should be doing this.

Often it's license incompatibilities. Even open geodata is often licensed in a way incompatible with OSM. E.g. a typical attribution requirement would require OSM data consumers to include the full list of data sources in the attribution (which is usually just mentioning the OSM contributors). So often there are individual arrangements with the respective bureaus to give the data to OSM under different conditions. For example, the cadastre data here in a southern German state is available under the condition that the attribution happens in the OSM changeset, which is much easier to fulfill (and is being done automatically in editors as soon as you have that imagery as a background layer).

But generally, someone must care enough to ask the data holders to make such an import possible. And I guess for individual trees the interest isn't as high as for roads or building footprints.

Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

josters wrote: post #14

In Berlin there is "Gieß den Kiez"[1] (water your block). It not only shows you the species and age for every tree on public property, you can also adopt trees and be responsible for watering them. > Gieß den Kiez is a participatory platform where you can inform yourself about the trees in your neighbourhood and their water needs. You can explore individual trees in Berlin and find out about the proper watering of tr…

I have checked out my local area on that London tree map, and it appears to be accurate in details.

True story: Summer 2022 in London was unprecedented and brutal. After weeks of heat without rain, it got worse: there was a day that the temperature reached 41C in July, and only a bit cooler on days on either side. 3 young trees on that map are possibly only alive because I noticed how badly they were doing (leaves all shrivelling up and falling off), and applied water daily until the heatwave was over and they started to grow new leaves.

I wonder what would have happened if those trees had died? How and when is the map updated? These treed are cared for (in as much as they are cared for at all) by the borough council. So the tree data is also collected by them?

1) https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jul/19/uk-weathe...

Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by IndigoIncognito »

_dain_ wrote: post #19
gpa wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how they protect their trees in the United Kingdom. This approach to environmental preservation should be adopted globally.

it's a scam to inflate property values.

How so, tree's provide value so how is it a scam?

Re: TreeTalk London – Tree Map

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Post by IndigoIncognito »

samb1729 wrote: post #23
moremetadata wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its harder to terminate a tree in the UK than a human.

Which forms do I need to fill out to axe my sibling?

If you don't pay your parking fines, eventually they will send their goons to end you, thats one way to axe a sibling
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