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Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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post #26

Aside from saving money, they're doing it also to generate sales. In iPhone 15 the missing button will be the feature. Some years later, say in iPhone 18, the re-introduced button will be the feature. All that happened before with Apple devices. They took away the form factor of the original iPhone SE without replacement just to bring it back with the iPhone 13 Mini. Also they took away the ports of MacBooks to end u…

The original iPhone SE and iPhone Mini designs are not the same.

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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Is this journalism? The first sentence itself is incorrect. > But since reports have been surfacing for a while now that [...]. Well, what about it? You cannot start a sentence with "But since" and not offer a what it means .

It seems to read okay if the word "but" is removed, maybe that's the typo.

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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post #29

> And gloves! Sure, gloves with capacitive fingertips exist, and Apple will probably engineer ways for these pretend buttons to play nicely with gloves. Why assume the buttons will be capacitive? Pressure sensitive makes more sense to me.

If they’re pressure-sensitive they won’t work while the lid is closed… so they’d have to be capacitive.

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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Haptic buttons are great. The Home button on my iPhone SE, the click on my MacBook trackpad -- zero issues. The click on my AirPods Pro stem too. And the obvious benefit here is better waterproofing and one less physical mechanism to break. I really don't understand the author's complaint. I think this ship sailed years ago and it's proven to be a non-issue.

reason I still use my IphoneSE version 1. still has the actual button on the front face. Hoping they release another model in the next 3-4 years with an actual front-facing button

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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Has anybody noted that 80% of iPhones have a case?[0] For all the comments praising the physical iPhone buttons, when was the last time you actually touched one?

Apple has been building for this reality for years (see: camera hardware that juts out). This is just the next iteration.

And, yes, it sucks to be in the 20% as an Apple customer. They always design for the 80%.

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/368627/us-protective-cas...

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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Has anybody noted that 80% of iPhones have a case?[0] For all the comments praising the physical iPhone buttons, when was the last time you actually touched one? Apple has been building for this reality for years (see: camera hardware that juts out). This is just the next iteration. And, yes, it sucks to be in the 20% as an Apple customer. They always design for the 80%. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/368627…

I am not an iPhone user but do iPhone cases block the buttons?

I have always had a case on all my Android phones, and none of them blocked any of the buttons. I use buttons all the time, with a case on my phone.

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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post #29

> And gloves! Sure, gloves with capacitive fingertips exist, and Apple will probably engineer ways for these pretend buttons to play nicely with gloves. Why assume the buttons will be capacitive? Pressure sensitive makes more sense to me.

If they’re pressure-sensitive they won’t work while the lid is closed… so they’d have to be capacitive.

I don't know what that means. What lid? And why would a lid cover the sides of a phone?

Even a case fully covering the sides could have a bump in the right place, to serve as a target for the user and transmit force to the phone's force sensor.

Re: Apple, please don’t take all of the buttons away

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post #34

Haptic buttons are great. The Home button on my iPhone SE, the click on my MacBook trackpad -- zero issues. The click on my AirPods Pro stem too. And the obvious benefit here is better waterproofing and one less physical mechanism to break. I really don't understand the author's complaint. I think this ship sailed years ago and it's proven to be a non-issue.

reason I still use my IphoneSE version 1. still has the actual button on the front face. Hoping they release another model in the next 3-4 years with an actual front-facing button

I don’t quite follow - what is the reason? That you wish there was a haptic home button? iPhones never had haptic buttons on the front face - only real physical press buttons.
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