if they could only make their chat worthwhile this would be reasonable pricing. but as long as the decision is to pay for google workspace and slack, or else microsoft including teams, then microsoft seems like a better deal. i know teams gets a lot of hate, but it's at least usable.
Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
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Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lock in
There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. It's not a monopoly under any reasonable definition of the term. Of course switching is going to have inertia, but that's not lock in. Lock in is when you are contractually obligated not to change, or if the monopoly is shutting down all competing services (perhaps by acquisition) so that there are no alternatives. For a good ex…
No, you seem to be confusing "vendor lock-in" with "monopoly". The above isn't what is meant by "vendor lock-in". Here's a good explanation by Cloudflare:
> Vendor lock-in refers to a situation where the cost of switching to a different vendor is so high that the customer is essentially stuck with the original vendor. Because of financial pressures, an insufficient workforce, or the need to avoid interruptions to business operations, the customer is "locked in" to what may be an inferior product or service.
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/cloud/what-is-vendor-loc...
A practical example of vendor lock-in is an elderly aunt with mine who has an email address from her ISP. She isn't "contractually obligated" to continue using that email, nor the ISP. The ISP certainly doesn't have a monopoly on email. But the effort to switch from an email that she's been using for 15 years is very high for someone with weak tech skills. I'm probably in a similar situation with Gmail, as it's the primary contact by which most people know me. I can't take my Gmail address and port it; I have to create a new email and get people to update their address books.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#33$20/mo still isn't bad for unlimited storage. Do any other providers come close to this price point? I wish I could prepay for the next 10 years to lock in at this price. How much does a petabyte of redundant hard drive storage cost? Yeah.. will probably still be more than $2,500 USD in 10 years.
Do you need a petabyte of storage?
I don't need anything, eventually I'll probably die.
In the meantime..
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#34What are you going to do, move to a different service? Switching out your cloud hosted office suite is probably a non starter for most companies.
Moving from GSuite to M365 is a fairly popular move. Consulting companies build around this service.
I've seen more movement in the opposite direction, from M365 to Google.
Mostly from companies who chose Microsoft before G Suite became popular for business.
But maybe it's industry-dependent?
In any case, you definitely need consultants because it's a pain no matter which direction you're going. Not a decision to take lightly, and you're not going to switch again for another 15 years.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#35Thanks for the submission, we are resellers and the email they sent out was vague and didn't include a price sheet. We are very used to getting shit on at this point.
Last week they stressed us out emailing us about a few users reaching resource limits and rather than name the customers they just sent a CSV with some Google internal customer_id we aren't privy to. A day later they corrected it using another faceless id that is at least on our billing statements.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lock in
There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. It's not a monopoly under any reasonable definition of the term. Of course switching is going to have inertia, but that's not lock in. Lock in is when you are contractually obligated not to change, or if the monopoly is shutting down all competing services (perhaps by acquisition) so that there are no alternatives. For a good ex…
> There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services.
There is significant lock-in with email because:
1 - Email migration sucks and if you're a big org, this process can/will be complicated, expensive and carry potential down time for end-users.
2 - The bigger you are, the less willing you are to go through with #1 without a really, really ridiculously good reason
Migration is so painful some companies are still emailing from unpatched Exchange 2007 servers under the IT guy's desk.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#37Up 20%: Starter: $6 -> $7.20 Standard: $12 -> $14.40 Plus: $18 -> $21.60 They are also introducing an annual payment option where you can pay the old per-month prices ($6, $12, $18).
they had an annual plan previously
then dumped it, effectively raising the price
now they've raised the price again and have and brought the annual plan back as a "discount"
(no doubt the annual plan will disappear again as another stealth price increase)
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#38We switched from Google to Zoho Workspace last year once they threatened to stop support to the "legacy" users. Comparable service and much less expensive.
+1 for Zoho. They offer a all the services needed at a very convenient pricing.
The pricing is good, but the experience for mail is poor.
I move from Zoho to Fastmail a year later and it’s a much slicker experience.
(Just mail, I didn’t use any of Zoho’s collaborative tools.)
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#39I just went to Zoho after the "legacy" policy. It's just doesnt worth it. I need just an imap email service with custom domain name.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
+1 for Zoho. They offer a all the services needed at a very convenient pricing.
The pricing is good, but the experience for mail is poor. I move from Zoho to Fastmail a year later and it’s a much slicker experience. (Just mail, I didn’t use any of Zoho’s collaborative tools.)
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